xanthian@zorch.sf-bay.org (Kent Paul Dolan) (06/28/91)
[Note: this RFD is posted as a service to our readers and an exception to the
usual ban on non-review postings. The rec.arts.sf-reviews moderators
neither endorse nor oppose this proposal. Followup discussion is directed
to news.groups. Thank you --Alan Wexelblat]
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Preface
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Here is the kernel of a proposed reorganization of rec.arts.sf-lovers
into a hierarchy called rec.arts.sf.*. This also affects existing
newsgroups rec.arts.drwho, rec.arts.startrek, and rec.arts.sf-reviews in
administrative ways only, and takes some SF traffic from the
alt.fandom.* hierarchy. This is a very long posting, but the important
stuff is up front. This posting officially moves the discussion from
rec.arts.sf-lovers to news.groups; please comply.
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Summary
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Create rec.arts.sf as a hierarchy node (no posting)
Rename rec.arts.startrek as rec.arts.sf.startrek
Rename rec.arts.drwho as rec.arts.sf.drwho
Rename rec.arts.sf-reviews as rec.arts.sf.reviews
Rename rec.arts.sf-creative as rec.arts.sf.creative (if voted in by then)
Create rec.arts.sf.misc and alias rec.arts.sf-lovers to it temporarily
Create rec.arts.sf.* as subdivisions of rec.arts.sf-lovers' current traffic
Despite the fact that lots of people will scream in agony, the first
six items, with a little intelligent thought applied, are not
controversial, they are just needed bookkeeping to keep the net neat.
The seventh, however, is going to be a doozy.
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Original Proposal
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Here, slightly modified by subsequent intelligent input, is the group
split proposal that got me drafted to run this reorganization:
rec.arts.sf.reviews (moderated - formal reviews) (*)
rec.arts.sf.drwho (the TV series Dr. Who) (*)
rec.arts.sf.startrek (the TV and movie Star Trek series) (*)
rec.arts.sf.creative (talking about poster-written SF examples) (**)
rec.arts.sf.misc (speculation, science, story lines, art, ...) (***)
rec.arts.sf.announce (moderated - cons, book upcoming lists, etc.)
rec.arts.sf.written (books, magazines, comics, etc.)
rec.arts.sf.performed (radio, TV, movies, plays, etc.)
rec.arts.sf.authoring (meta-discussions, being in the business)
(*) renames existing group
(**) renames group currently in RFD stage in news.groups.
(***) alias target for existing rec.arts.sf-lovers group, which will
be removed, so late postings have a newsgroup in which to land.
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Additional Proposed Groups
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There have been a lot of "gag" proposals (at least I sincerely hope they
were), but the following additions to the above list seem to have been
presented as serious attempts to extend or modify my original
suggestions, and are worthy of discussion. I've mucked with some of the
names a bit out of obsessive neatness.
rec.arts.sf.lists (Requests for list input, partial list results)
rec.arts.sf.lovers (news home for sf-lovers digest or replacement
for rec.arts.sf.misc to preserve the name)
rec.arts.sf.written.fantasy (Swords and sorcery separated out)
rec.arts.sf.written.tolkien (discussion of Tolkein's works)
rec.arts.sf.written.heinlein (discussion of Heinlein's works)
rec.arts.sf.written.new (Just put on the shelves in last few weeks)
rec.arts.sf.written.recent (Last three years or so; authors' ongoing series)
rec.arts.sf.written.classic (Authors' closed series, dead authors, etc.)
rec.arts.sf.performed.movies (The originally wide screen stuff)
rec.arts.sf.performed.tv (Made for boob tube versions)
rec.arts.sf.performed.misc (Stage, radio, etc.)
rec.arts.sf.bicker (home for the constant personality clashes)
rec.arts.sf.fandom (Replace the SF discussion part of
alt.fandom.cons and alt.fandom.misc)
rec.arts.sf.reconcile (Making serial or lifetime works fit together
where they appear to be in conflict)
Now obviously there are some overlaps and conflicts there, and a _lot_
of proposed groups, but this isn't yet a polished ballot proposal, either,
just the call for discussion to agree upon one.
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| The full text of this proposal, with charters and |
| included prior discussion from rec.arts.sf-lovers to |
| prevent retreading old ground, runs almost 48,000 |
| bytes, and is posted in full in news.groups only, to |
| avoid adding high bandwidth to low noise newsgroups. |
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No date for the first call for votes is projected; this is going to take
some talking out first, and may well run longer than usual news.groups
discussions.
Kent, the man from xanth.
<xanthian@Zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <xanthian@well.sf.ca.us>
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Convener, rec.arts.sf.* grand reorganization.