[biz.sco.general] UUCP over TCP/IP under SCO Xenix 2.3.2

jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer) (05/08/91)

Has anyone successfully gotten HDB UUCP to carry on a conversation 
over a TCP/IP link?? 

It seems ignorant of SCO not to include this in either their UUCP or
TCP/IP. They hit you up for the extra $$$ for TCP/IP, which should
be part of the operating system already, and then they don't even
provide all of the neccessary features.

Sigh. 

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peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) (05/08/91)

In article <1991May7.203740.9416@tygra.Michigan.COM> jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer) writes:
> Has anyone successfully gotten HDB UUCP to carry on a conversation 
> over a TCP/IP link?? 

Yes.
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srodawa@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Ron Srodawa) (05/10/91)

In article <_I5B8V7@xds13.ferranti.com> peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <1991May7.203740.9416@tygra.Michigan.COM> jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer) writes:
>> Has anyone successfully gotten HDB UUCP to carry on a conversation 
>> over a TCP/IP link?? 
>
>Yes.

You are just whetting our appetites!  How did you do it?  The documents
are completely silent on this matter.  I would really appreciate a
debriefing on just how you did this.  I'm sure others would too.
Ron.

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peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) (05/11/91)

In article <6361@vela.acs.oakland.edu> srodawa@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Ron Srodawa) writes:
> In article <_I5B8V7@xds13.ferranti.com> peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
> >In article <1991May7.203740.9416@tygra.Michigan.COM> jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer) writes:
> >> Has anyone successfully gotten HDB UUCP to carry on a conversation 
> >> over a TCP/IP link?? 

> >Yes.

> You are just whetting our appetites!  How did you do it?

I followed the cookbook instructions that came with the Excelan TCP/IP
package. It's quite a nice package, though people used to classic BSD TCP/IP
will be a trifle freaked out by it: it does everything the System V way,
down to having inittab entries for all the rlogin ports (which means you
can't rlogin to a system without providing a login and password).

What they do is have a specific virtual terminal, ttyT64, that has a
deamon listening to it. That deamon sees an open and accepts a system name,
then establishes an rlogin to that system and sits there handling packets.
You could bash something like this together with Bernstein's PTY package
or expect in an afternoon.

How SCO or anyone else wants to do it, I don't know. They might well have
their own ttyT64 equivalent.
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lan_csse@netrix.nac.dec.com (CSSE LAN Test Account) (05/23/91)

In article <6361@vela.acs.oakland.edu> srodawa@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Ron Srodawa) writes:
>In article <_I5B8V7@xds13.ferranti.com> peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>In article <1991May7.203740.9416@tygra.Michigan.COM> jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer) writes:
>>> Has anyone successfully gotten HDB UUCP to carry on a conversation 
>>> over a TCP/IP link?? 
>>
>>Yes.
>
>You are just whetting our appetites!  How did you do it?  The documents
>are completely silent on this matter.  I would really appreciate a
>debriefing on just how you did this.  I'm sure others would too.

On systems that have TCP drivers in uucico and/or uucpd, the usual way 
is to create a Systems (or L.sys) entry somewhat like:

sysname time device class address     login_sequence
phubar  Any  TCP    TCP   16.20.176.7 in:--in ...

I.e., the device and class fields are both TCP, and the address field 
is the IP address instead of the phone number.  The TCP may have to 
be lower case for it to work.  I recall seeing one system in which the 
device was the interface name (ln0 or se0 or ...), but I don't think 
this is usually needed, because packets should be handed to IP for 
routing and uucico shouldn't have to care which interface is used.  

You might try some combinations of these and see what sort of error 
messages you get. If the TCP value is unknown, then you probably don't 
have TCP support; if you get address rejections, you probably do have 
TCP support but the above format isn't quite right.

You might also harass your vendor, telling them that we told you that uucp
works over TCP and you want to know how to configure it...

I'd look it up in the manuals, but this is an Ultrix system that is well
behind the times in such matters.  If someone has a manual with examples,
how about posting one or two and telling us what kind of system it is...