csw72@seq1.keele.ac.uk (D.J. Hulewicz) (05/13/91)
At a recent trip to the Computer Shopper Show in London I was told by a
Quarterdeck rep. that he expected the UK price of DESQview/X to be 150 pounds
but the upgrade price from DESQview 386 will only be 50 pounds. The basic price
will include only the X-Windows type interface without any applications.
The price of those will increase the price significantly.
DESQview/X is available now for developers for about 400 pounds and it will
be generally available in under two months.
-Dom.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------davidsen@rdsunx.crd.GE.COM (William E Davidsen) (05/17/91)
In article <1163@keele.keele.ac.uk>, csw72@seq1.keele.ac.uk (D.J. Hulewicz) writes: |> |> At a recent trip to the Computer Shopper Show in London I was told by a |> Quarterdeck rep. that he expected the UK price of DESQview/X to be 150 pounds |> but the upgrade price from DESQview 386 will only be 50 pounds. The basic price |> will include only the X-Windows type interface without any applications. |> The price of those will increase the price significantly. I got a call from Karen Smith at Quarterdeck, and she indicated that there was a developer's version now in beta, and that if you filled in an application you might be allowed to buy a copy for $500. The end user version is not yet out, but I could file an application to be allowed to buy a beta test version of that, too. It is expected to be in prerelease in June and production in September. The price of the end user version is not set at present, but will be determined by the time the product is marketed. If I read my notes right, the developer version does not include a window manager, but I can get MOTIF or OpenLook for $500 more. Or I can buy PC-NFS and xview and have production software on my desk today.
yow@riddler.Berkeley.EDU (Billy Yow 283-4051) (05/17/91)
> If I read my notes right, the developer version does not include a >window manager, but I can get MOTIF or OpenLook for $500 more. DESQview/X is (will be) several products: The DESQview/X runtime is a X-Server and Quarterdeck's Window Manager. The Motif or Open Look window managers could also be run on this Server either on the local machine or remotely from say a Sun SparcStation. I don't know if Quarterdeck will sell the Motif or Open Look window managers without the full Motif or Open Look development kit. I will assume that at sometime these will be available separately. Development kits: X-lib -- Lets you write X-Programs at the X-lib level. It supports Real Mode, 286 Extended and 386 Extended mode programs. (Note: Extended mode can also be called protected mode.) Motif Toolkit -- Lets you write Motif X-Window programs in 286 or 386 Extended mode. Open Look Toolkit -- Lets you write Open Look X Window programs in 286 or 386 Extended mode. XVT Toolkit -- Lets you write to a virtual windowing toolkit which can then be linked with Mac, Win 3, OS/2 and X Windows libraries. This has no window manager. While Desqview/X is in beta the Server, Quarterdeck's Window Manager and X-Lib products are combined. When the product is released they will be broken apart. > Or I can buy PC-NFS and xview and have production software on my desk today. Yes you can buy xview. But that is only a SERVER you will never be able to use it for running PC text application on another X-server. Nor can you write a X based PC program. If all you need is simple X-Servers, then xview maybe the best way to go. If you wish to make the PCs more of an equal in a X environment then Desqview/X is going to be the better way to go. All of this information is in Desqview's X booklet that has been in a number of magazines over the pass 6 months. I have no connect with Quarterdeck other than being a user of their products. Bill Yow yow@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov My opinions are my own! All errors in the above information are also my own.