[net.rec.birds] squirrel@feeder

jay@umd5.UUCP (08/12/85)

Well they tried to take our group away and that got everyone excited.  It's
good to see traffic in this group again and I thought I might stir up some
more by posing a question about what is probably the most common annoyance
to those of us with backyard feeders; how do I keep the squirrels from my
feeder?

I tried the trick recommended in the instructions for assembling my latest
feeder.  It suggested using fishing line to hang the feeder and placing a
an album between the suspended line and the top of the feeder.  So, what
did that do?  The squirrels gnawed away at the top of the fishing line and
crash went the feeder.  So I hung it up once again and covered the part of
the fishing line that hangs from the branch with duct tape (I know, it sounds
weird).  This worked for one day.  Once the squirrels figured out that
duct tape is not a menace, they climbed down the fishing wire past the
record album and ate two huge chunks out of the side of the (cheap) plastic
feeder.

Short, of recommending that I buy a gun (I suppose survival knives are
now more in vogue), I am interested in hearing from other bird-feeding
compatriots who have managed to stave off similar competition at their
feeders.  I suppose I'm just as interested in hearing about failure, too,
since then I'll know what not to try.

P.S. Please don't suggest wiring the feeder to the house current.
-- 
Jay Elvove       ..!seismo!rlgvax!cvl!umd5!jay
c/o Systems, Computer Science Center, U. of MD.

nemo@rochester.UUCP (Wolfe) (08/13/85)

> how do I keep the squirrels from my feeder?
> Jay Elvove       ..!seismo!rlgvax!cvl!umd5!jay

Squirrels are gold-medal caliber gymnasts, as I'm sure you know.  I have
never had consistent success with any of the techniques that make it hard
for the squirrel to get to the (otherwise unprotected) feeder.  It just 
takes them a little longer and is more amusing to watch (if you can see
the humor in it).  However, there is a variety of feeder that friends have
told me works without fail.  It is made of steel (tough on those little
squirrel teeth) and glass (ditto), with wood in non-critical places (like
the perch so the little birdies don't stick to the feeder when it's 10
below).  The main idea is that the perch is attached to a metal shield 
that can cover the food tray.  Ordinarily springs hold the perch and shield
up so birds can feed, but if something as heavy as a squirrel tries sitting
on the perch (and it is designed so that there is really no other way to
get at the chickadee chow), the shield drops with the laden perch, covering
the tray.  Squirrels give up pretty soon.  I don't recall the name of the
feeder's maker, but I have seen them advertised and at markets for about
$20 or so.  The steel is stainless, so they should last practically forever.
Nemo
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jtkrist@ihnss.UUCP (J. T. Krist) (08/14/85)

<squeak, squeak, squeak>

My next door neighbor (a retired Western Electric Engineer)
uses a battery and spark coil attached to the feeder.  When
ever he sees a squirrel on the feeder, he'll give it a zap.
Claims that they learn pretty fast.  But then, this is a guy
who has a radio controlled model Canada Goose that he takes
to the local pond, and gets kids to throw bread at.

Since I can't stay home all day, I've gone through a number
of feeders (and especially a lot of suet).  It's amazing to see
the way that squirrels can leap from trees, bird baths, phone wires, 
the side of the house, etc. to land on a feeder.  So the first
problem is to hang the feeder where the squirrel can't just
jump onto it.  I have mine hung on the overhang of my house 
in front of a large sliding glass door.  Too close to the
edge of the door though, and the rascals will climb up the bricks 
of the house and jump over.  They haven't yet figured out to 
get suction cups to climb up the glass.  To hang the feeders,
I use heavy, plastic coated wire.  I guess they could knaw through
that, if they really wanted to, but maybe there's easier food to
come by where I live.  Finally, I bought some heavy plastic
"squirrel guards" from the local hardware store.  These are roughly
18" hemispheres of about 3/16" plastic.  These are hung low enough
so that the squirrels can't reach them while hanging from the roof
of the house.  Their size, shape, and slipperyness seems to keep the
squirrels from being able to hang on and knaw they way through.

I've used this solution for about two years and haven't had a problem
with squirrels since.  I have a large Droll Yankee sunflower feeder,
a Droll Yankee thislte feeder, and a mesh bag of suet, installed
as described.  We get juncoes, chickadees, cardinals, downy woodpeckers,
and occassionally a pine siskin, and crossbill along with the resident 
{english sparrow|house sparrow|weaver finch}es.
-- 

	Jim Krist
	...!ihnp4!{ihnss!ihesa}!jtkrist
	AT&T Bell Laboratories
	Room IH 6C-541 
	Naperville, IL 60566
	(312)-979-4847

res@ihlpl.UUCP (Rich Strebendt @ AT&T Information Systems - Indian Hill West; formerly) (08/16/85)

> how do I keep the squirrels from my feeder?

I mount my feeder at the top of a piece of black iron pipe (about one
inch diameter (OD) and use a cone of metal on the pipe about a foot and
a half from the feeder.  This has proven VERY effective!  Sketch
follows:

		 __________
		|__________|
		 |        |    <-- feeder
		 |________|
		     ||
		     ||
		     ||
		    /  \       <-- cone of sheet metal
		   /____\
		     ||
		     ||
		     ||        <-- pipe ~5 feet above ground
		     ~~
		     ~~
		     ||
		  ___||___
		    ||||       <-- pipe set into ~1" ID plastic
		    ||||	   pipe in ground (~2' deep)
		    |__|

					Rich Strebendt
					...!ihnp4!iwsl6!res