Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton) (06/17/91)
My apologies in advance if this subject has been discussed here previously. Also, X/Window is something I'm just getting into. Am I correct in understanding that one of the uses of Desqview/X would be to make it possible to use a 386/486 type machine as an X Terminal? (I hope so; Imagine running MS/DOS applications locally, and UNIX applications running elsewhere, at the same time). If so, where would TCP/IP support come from? Is it built into Desqview/X, or would you have to buy it somewhere else? -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Robert Broughton Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca "We calm and reassure. We embrace people with the message that we're all in it together. That our leaders are infallible and that there is nothing, absolutely nothing wrong." - Miles Drentell, _thirtysomething_
johnp@gssc.UUCP (John Providenza) (06/21/91)
Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton) writes: >My apologies in advance if this subject has been discussed here previously. >Also, X/Window is something I'm just getting into. >Am I correct in understanding that one of the uses of Desqview/X would be to >make it possible to use a 386/486 type machine as an X Terminal? (I hope so; >Imagine running MS/DOS applications locally, and UNIX applications running >elsewhere, at the same time). If so, where would TCP/IP support come from? Is >it built into Desqview/X, or would you have to buy it somewhere else? >-- >*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* A number of companies (including ours) already sell products that "turn your PC into an X terminal". They use standard networking software to provide the connection to the net. Some companies (including ours) also have available packages that include the network software and/or high resolution graphics cards and/or ethernet cards for "one stop shopping". My understanding of Deskview/X is that it will allow X applications to run on your PC and use the X protocol to talk directly to local graphics hardware. The X application must (obviously) be compiled to 80x86 binary to run locally. Hope this is helpful. John Providenza Spectragraphics/Graphic Software Systems (aka GSS) 503-641-2200
prange@cs.tu-berlin.de (Martin Prange) (06/22/91)
Hi Netpeople! In article <6683@gssc.UUCP> johnp@gssc.UUCP (John Providenza) writes: ..... > A number of companies (including ours) already sell products that > "turn your PC into an X terminal". They use standard networking > software to provide the connection to the net. Some companies > (including ours) also have available packages that include the > network software and/or high resolution graphics cards and/or > ethernet cards for "one stop shopping". > > My understanding of Deskview/X is that it will allow X applications > to run on your PC and use the X protocol to talk directly to local > graphics hardware. The X application must (obviously) be compiled > to 80x86 binary to run locally. But that's just *one* half of the cake! Remenber: X11 works *remote* too, and that's a quite powerful feature, since whereever you can establish a tcp/ip connection between PC A and Unix-machine B, you'll be able to run xeyes (either xeyes.exe or unix-executable ) on *both* machines: TRIVIAL CASE: program:local display:local A <------------> B /--\ /---\ PC-User (runs xeyes.exe) program:remote display:local A <------------> B /--\ /---\ PC-User (runs unix-xeyes: "rsh B xeyes -display A:0") That's *definitely* cool, isn't it ??? More: You`ll be able to contact the Unix-machines and PC's with the *same* Interface for Inter-Process-Communication ! :-) Martin. Disclaimer: I'm *NOT* assocciated with Quaterdeck at all. -- Martin Prange | <prange@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de> Cheruskerstr. 21a | USENET: ...%!{unido,pyramid}!tub!opal!prange 1000 Berlin 62 | BITNET: prange%opal@DB0TUI11.BITNET Germany | or prange%opal@DB0TUI11.EARN -------------------+----------------------------------------------------- There are two kinds of people in this world: Those that want to _be_ something, and those that want to _do_ something. ( There is less competition in the second category. )
ian@unipalm.uucp (Ian Phillipps) (06/26/91)
Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton) writes: >Am I correct in understanding that one of the uses of Desqview/X would be to >make it possible to use a 386/486 type machine as an X Terminal? (I hope so; >Imagine running MS/DOS applications locally, and UNIX applications running >elsewhere, at the same time). If so, where would TCP/IP support come from? Is >it built into Desqview/X, or would you have to buy it somewhere else? First a disclaimer: I work for a company selling FTP's and GSS's software, and have on my desk a booklet describing Desqview/X which is stamped "CONFIDENTIAL". So, what I knew before I read this book was that Desqview/X is intended to talk to other X systems via FTP's PC/TCP, and uses X server technology from GSS/Spectragraphics. So the answer is "yes". Other posters have pointed out that existing programs will make a PC an X server already. The missing link in the other products is being able to make effective use of DOS commands remotely. (I exclude the rsh server embedded in PC/XView as it's fairly limited and suspends the X server while it's doing it.) Ian