rose@galtee.cs.wisc.edu (Mary Martin) (04/13/91)
Coherent Digest Vol. 91.2, No. 3 Thu Apr 11 23:04:48 CDT 1991
Today's Topics:
postscript output filters
Enlarging Coherent Partitions
graphics
smail hell
Re: smail hell
(none)
Request for Opinions
Coherent and smail
Re: Coherent and smail
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 91 10:31:06 CDT
From: grante@rosevax.rosemount.com (Grant B. Edwards)
To: coherent
Subject: postscript output filters
I tried thack once and didn't have much much with it.
I do have two other filters that I use to print files on the
Postscript printer (LaserJet IIID w/ HP PS cart.) attached to my Sun.
The first takes an ascii file and prints it in courier, at 66 lines
per page with backspace and form feed support. It lets you print files
processed by nroff for a line printer (I haven't implemented half line
feeds or reverse line feeds yet).
The second filter is one that I use for source code listings, it prints
in landscape mode with 2 or 3 columns per page. It displays a header
with file name, creation and modification data. Line numbering and
comment shading are optional.
They would have to be translated from ANSI C to traditional C, but they
should run without problems. If anybody is interested, I'll make them
available.
Grant Edwards
Rosemount Inc, CB7 He who dies with
12001 Technology Drive grante@hydro.rosemount.com the most manuals
Eden Prairie, MN 55344 uunet!rosevax!hydro!grante wins.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 91 20:08:37 -0400
From: dan@ni.umd.edu (Dan Burns)
To: coherent
Subject: Enlarging Coherent Partitions
I have just ordered Coherent for my 386SX which has a 210 meg HD, and have
a question about creating the Coherent partition. I have removed one of
my DOS partions, to allocate 30 meg for Coherent when it arrives. If I
later decide that I need more space for Coherent, taking space from DOS is
easy, but will I have a problem, dumping Coherent, re-partitioning for
Coherent using it's partitioning software, and then restoring it? Has anyone
done this, or had any problems doing this?
Thanks,
Dan Burns (dan@ni.umd.edu)
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 91 22:49:03 CDT
From: Paul J Wickman <pwickman@carroll1.cc.edu>
To: coherent
Subject: graphics
So what's the deal with graphics for Coherent? Are there any, EGA, VGA, or
what? I have a project to do for my Comp Sci major and would like to use
my PC at home. Only thing is, I would like a Unix environment at home. I
know that Coherent and DOS can coreside, but I don't want to have to shut down
Coherent just to use DOS for my project. Does the C compiler have any graphics
capabilities, or has anyone ported graphics programming software that will fit
in this 64K limit.
I also heard that MWC was working on the 64K barrier, would this mean
386 support as well?
Paul Wickman
pwickman@carroll1.cc.edu
Computer Science Dept
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Date: 10 Apr 91 10:13:14 EDT
From: Stephane Doucet <73207.1247@CompuServe.COM>
To: <coherent>
Subject: smail hell
OK folks...I need help again here. I have been trying to install smail
and am running into some problems. Firstly: it doesn't work. :)
The deal is that I only have (right now) one link to the outside world
and he can be my smart-host: I don't need to deal with huge maps. So
what data files do I need? The paths database and aliase files, right?
OK...so I ran make last night after configuring defs.h but after it
went through it cam back with the message: make: don't know how to
make all'. But it seemed to have gone through the whole Makefile before
it gave that message.
I then tried to install it in /bin with the appropriate links to rmail,
lmail, and mail. But then when I invoked 'mail' all I would get was
the cursor on a blank line....if I typed anything it was ok until I
pressed <ENTER> or ctrl-D. That would give me the message 'killed' and
then would return me to the '$' prompt. What went wrong? Any suggestions?
- -Stephane
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Date: 10 Apr 91 13:39:09
From: root%trystro.uucp@Think.COM (Richard Nickle)
To: coherent
Subject: Re: smail hell
Stephane:
- -|
- -|OK folks...I need help again here. I have been trying to install smail
- -|and am running into some problems. Firstly: it doesn't work. :)
The smail distribution's makefile has a 'fixstack 1000' in it.
It should be 'fixstack 2000'. You probably just didn't see it
last time someone mentioned it in the mailing list.
- -|The deal is that I only have (right now) one link to the outside world
- -|and he can be my smart-host: I don't need to deal with huge maps. So
- -|what data files do I need? The paths database and aliase files, right?
Yep. That's it. And make ABSOLUTELY SURE that the paths database is
sorted alphabetically, and that the format is:
sitename<tab>bang!path!%s<tab>cost<nl>
No blank spaces between lines. Only one tab between each field.
Otherwise the binary sort smail does on the file will crash.
- -|OK...so I ran make last night after configuring defs.h but after it
- -|went through it cam back with the message: make: don't know how to
- -|make all'. But it seemed to have gone through the whole Makefile before
- -|it gave that message.
That 'make all' error is common enough. Don't worry about it.
I can't explain it, but it's something to do with Coherent's make.
- -|
- -|I then tried to install it in /bin with the appropriate links to rmail,
- -|lmail, and mail. But then when I invoked 'mail' all I would get was
- -|the cursor on a blank line....if I typed anything it was ok until I
- -|pressed <ENTER> or ctrl-D. That would give me the message 'killed' and
- -|then would return me to the '$' prompt. What went wrong? Any suggestions?
Once you make sure that the things I mentioned above are done,
try doing it this way:
smail -d path<nl>
message
<ctrl-d>
The -d option will give you a lot of debug output and won't send the
message. You can test your routing table out this way.
You're probably going to want to get 'deliver' running as your local
delivery agent and dump Coherent's 'mail' program altogether.
Get WMAIL or CoMB running in it's stead.
Rick
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 91 17:37:01 PDT
From: mhm!hamid@uop.uop.edu (Mohd H Misnan)
To: coherent
Subject: none
- -Yep. That's it. And make ABSOLUTELY SURE that the paths database is
- -sorted alphabetically, and that the format is:
- -sitename<tab>bang!path!%s<tab>cost<nl>
- -No blank spaces between lines. Only one tab between each field.
- -Otherwise the binary sort smail does on the file will crash.
I just got patches for binary search from someone from the
net. If anybody want it, just mail me.
- -That 'make all' error is common enough. Don't worry about it.
- -I can't explain it, but it's something to do with Coherent's make.
Try dmake then!!
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 91 12:49:27 EDT
From: "David B. O'Donnell" <EL406006@brownvm.brown.edu>
To: coherent
Subject: Request for Opinions
Hi, all. I recently purchased a ZEOS 386/25, and in my browsing through
various PC-related publications, I've noticed adverts for Coherent Unix
on the PC. I'm not terribly familiar with Unix, but I would like to become
moreso. Considering the advertized price, Coherent seems to be a reasonable
idea. What I would like to ask for are opinions on the product:
How difficult is it to learn?
How difficult is it to use? (for reference, I have been using VM/CMS for
six years, VMS for one, and have really only just started in the DOS
arena)
How utile is it, in terms of application availability, variety, and expense?
What kind of machine storage is recommendable--within a REASONABLE budget?
If I were to install Coherent Unix on my machine, would I be able to -- within
reason -- set myself up as a UUCP site? (assuming there are connector
sites within the Boston/Providence area =)
How does Coherent compare to more ``mainstream'' Unix implementations?
Many thanks for your replies.
_
| David B. O'Donnell
\|/ "Wer die schoenheit mit Augen angeschaut
(|) EL406006@BrownVM.Brown.EDU ist dem Tode anheim gegeben"
| Atropos@Drycas.Club.CC.CMU.EDU --Goethe
| USERGSKS@MTS.RPI.EDU
- -'
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Date: 11 Apr 91 17:39:21 EDT
From: Stephane Doucet <73207.1247@CompuServe.COM>
To: <coherent>
Subject: Coherent and smail
Hello...
For David: I had no or hardly any UNIX experience and have had relatively
little problem in running this software...with your background
you shouldn't see a problem. I think Coherent is a great learning tool.
As for utility...I guess it all depends what you want out of your PC.
Requirements for storage, etc are minimum...I run it on a 640K 286 with
a 20Mb drive with reasonable space.
As for UUCP...it takes some playing around...moreso for some than others.
I have it running and smail 2.5 so that I can receive and send mail to
other sites. Works great!
Rick: I got smail and deliver running...I guess I was a little spaced out.
But as for CoMB...yikes...the screen doesn't redraw correctly and
basically I can't read or compose messages though I can see the menu.
Does anyone else out there use some kind of mail reader with Coherent to
replace the mail program?
- -Stephane
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Date: 11 Apr 91 19:46:32
From: root%trystro.uucp@Think.COM (Richard Nickle)
To: coherent
Subject: Re: Coherent and smail
- -|
- -|Rick: I got smail and deliver running...I guess I was a little spaced out.
- -| But as for CoMB...yikes...the screen doesn't redraw correctly and
- -|basically I can't read or compose messages though I can see the menu.
The original libcurses.a has bugs that cause some curses-based programs
(including mine) to not work properly. Other causes of this could be
ill-defined TERM variables (ie, I've called in from a vt100 using the
ansipc TERM entry in my .profile, and when it clears the screen, some
control character in the ansipc entry causes the vt100 to reset. ugh)
I also wrote comb using the newer libc.a. This is affected slightly
by a buggy getlogin() function that has been fixed in the newer version.
- -|Does anyone else out there use some kind of mail reader with Coherent to
- -|replace the mail program?
WMAIL from the minix folks has been ported. A bunch of people use it,
I've never seen it myself. Comb works for me (I would hope so, since
I wrote it) despite it's faults (of which I'm aware).
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