[comp.compression] LHA212JP.EXE .lzh archiver at garbo.uwasa.fi

ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (04/21/91)

Sun 21-Apr-91: Acquired the Japanese version of LHa .lzh archiving
program version 2.12 from Japan.  I used the patch of the author to
include a version with an English help screen into the package. 
Since the documents are still in Japanese, I'll call the
self-extracting file I made /pc/arcers/lha212jp.exe, and for the
time being we'll retain also lha211.exe on our archives, since it
has English documentation.  Available in the usual manner from our
site. 

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Prof. Timo Salmi        
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School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
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c60b-1eq@e260-1e.berkeley.edu (Noam Mendelson) (04/22/91)

In article <1991Apr21.074001.18243@uwasa.fi> ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) writes:
>Sun 21-Apr-91: Acquired the Japanese version of LHa .lzh archiving
>program version 2.12 from Japan.  I used the patch of the author to
>include a version with an English help screen into the package. 
>			Available in the usual manner from our
>site. 

Alternately, you can FTP the latest version of LHa directly from
utsun.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (133.11.11.11) under /fj/lha (you'll find the
patch there too).  Utsun is one of the first sites to receive new
versions of LHa, as well as other things (archives of fj.sources and
fj.binaries.msdos).

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riddle@hoss.unl.edu (Michael H. Riddle) (04/23/91)

In <1991Apr22.032912.23254@agate.berkeley.edu> c60b-1eq@e260-1e.berkeley.edu (Noam Mendelson) writes:

>In article <1991Apr21.074001.18243@uwasa.fi> ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) writes:
>>Sun 21-Apr-91: Acquired the Japanese version of LHa .lzh archiving
>>program version 2.12 from Japan.  I used the patch of the author to
>>include a version with an English help screen into the package. 
>>			Available in the usual manner from our
>>site. 

>Alternately, you can FTP the latest version of LHa directly from
>utsun.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (133.11.11.11) under /fj/lha (you'll find the
>patch there too).  Utsun is one of the first sites to receive new
>versions of LHa, as well as other things (archives of fj.sources and
>fj.binaries.msdos).

I, for one, certainly appreciate Yoshi-San's contribution of the LH/LHA
series of programs, but have one nagging concern.

McAfee has identified over 501 virus strains now known for MS-DOS.  Am I
the only one who is concerned about infection potential in SFX.EXE-type
files?  I know /I'm/ not enough of a technician to look inside a
self-extracting archive and check it out ahead of time.  That makes me
reluctant to unpack LHA212.EXE or any other such archive, no matter what
the reputation of the alleged source.  I get concerned about spoofing,
etc, by persons unknown.  I'm certain most readers remember the PKZ102.EXE
virus problem, for example.
 
Is there an alternative which will protect the rights of the authors to
insist all files be sent, and yet allow inspection by various utilities
before unpacking?  Is there a method I'm not aware of?  Does anyone have
any comments? (Like I'm too paranoid, or maybe something useful?)
 
Thanks,
Mike


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jochenw@ikki.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Jochen Wolters) (04/23/91)

Hi Mike,

  as far as I know, SFX-archives *can* be extracted by using the appropriate unpacker. I'm not sure, if
this will work with the archive in question, since it might be compressed with a method that has been
introduced to LHA from the version that's in the archive :-). Just try to extract it with LHA 2.11, for
instance.

  Greetinx,
            Jochen.

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c60b-1eq@e260-1g.berkeley.edu (Noam Mendelson) (04/24/91)

In article <1991Apr23.113026.2657@unlinfo.unl.edu> riddle@hoss.unl.edu (Michael H. Riddle) writes:
>McAfee has identified over 501 virus strains now known for MS-DOS.  Am I
>the only one who is concerned about infection potential in SFX.EXE-type
>files?
>		Is there a method I'm not aware of?  Does anyone have
>any comments? (Like I'm too paranoid, or maybe something useful?)

The newer versions of LHa and PKZIP can extract their SFX files.  I.e.,
if you get lha212.exe and want to unpack it using an LHa.exe you already
have, just do 'lha x lha212.exe'.
This works around the very important virus problem that you mentioned.
No matter how reliable the source, a hacker can always seed it with a virus.
Better to be safe than sorry.


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ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (04/25/91)

In article <1991Apr24.030220.15637@agate.berkeley.edu> c60b-1eq@e260-1g.berkeley.edu (Noam Mendelson) writes:
:
>The newer versions of LHa and PKZIP can extract their SFX files.  I.e.,
>if you get lha212.exe and want to unpack it using an LHa.exe you already
>have, just do 'lha x lha212.exe'.
>This works around the very important virus problem that you mentioned.
>No matter how reliable the source, a hacker can always seed it with a virus.
>Better to be safe than sorry.

Yes, better safe than sorry.  I checked lha212.exe before making
/pc/arcers/lha212jp.exe available from garbo.uwasa.fi, and noticed
no problems.  But let's bear nevertheless the following in mind:

16. *****
 Q: Am I safe against viruses if download files from FTP sites?

 A: I'll give some information on this from an FTP moderator's point
of view. The official stand is the following directly from one of
our file lists:
   No liability is accepted for the consequences of using,
   or the inability to use, any of these files.  No absolute
   guarantees are given that these programs are clean from
   nasties, although none have been in evidence.  Please duly
   observe shareware rules wherever indicated.
But remember that there are no absolute guarantees _whatever_ your
sources are. There have even been cases of contaminated commercial
products. So the safety factor will never be a 100 per cent whether
you keep on downloading from ftp sites or not. At worst you can even
catch a virus if you buy a new machine (this has been known to
happen). On the other hand, the scare should not be exaggerated.
   It is certainly a good idea to employ two or three good virus
testers / protectors such as McAfee's /pc/virus/scanv76c.zip and
/pc/virus/fprot114.zip by Fridrik Skulason (or whatever are the
latest version numbers). I have one small additional trick up in my
sleeve. Put my dtetimal.exe in your autoexec.bat. If dtetimal gets
contaminated, it will loudly inform you of the fact. Dtetimal is
part of my /pc/ts/tsutil31.arc (or later) package at garbo.uwasa.fi
archives. Also use /pc/sysutil/chksum.zip to always check at least
your io.sys, msdos.sys, and command.com at boot time. You then have
a better chance of being alerted if you use these measures.

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Prof. Timo Salmi        
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.12.37
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun