maf@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Mark A. Foster) (03/16/91)
From: bbx!therev!maf@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Mark A. Foster)
My distributors list two such beasts - an Interarms Mark X (Mini-Mauser
action), no sights, MSRP $465.00, and a Ruger 77 with Zytel stock, no
sights, 10-shot rotary magazine, MSRP $595.00. Mighty pricy pieces of
iron!
Now for a question - why go with the 7.62x39? The cartridge
performance is not as good as the 30-30 - Frank Barnes lists it as
"marginal for deer-sized animals". The cheap surplus ammo for the 7.62x39
is mostly FMJ, and not suitable for hunting. The Winchester and Remington
SP loads in 7.62x39 are 123gr and 125 gr, respectively. Those are a tad on
the light side (for my tastes, your mileage may vary.) Besides which,
30-30 is lots easier to type than 7.62x39mm. 8-)
I've got a Marlin 336CS that I use for hunting, either with Winchester
150gr JHP or Remington 170gr HP - with the Micro-Groove barrel it's dead-on
to about 175 yards.
I've been very pleased with the Marlin - I swapped the rear
semi-buckhorn for a full buckhorn, so I get a nice sight picture. It comes
up fast, it's accurate, and reasonably cheap to feed. I picked it up used
(just barely) for $150. Given the terrain in which I hunt (mostly wooded
mountains) it's got all the range I'm likely to need - though I wouldn't
choose to argue with a bear with it. 8-)
Just some random, low-velocity musings -
Mark
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"It's so easy to think on days gone by,
So hard to think of times to come.
But the grace to accept every moment as a gift
Is a gift that is given to some."cbl@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu (Chris Luchini) (03/17/91)
From: cbl@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu (Chris Luchini) In article <369@erb1.engr.wisc.edu>, bbx!therev!maf@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Mark A. Foster) writes: > > >From: bbx!therev!maf@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Mark A. Foster) > My distributors list two such beasts - an Interarms Mark X (Mini-Mauser >action), no sights, MSRP $465.00, and a Ruger 77 with Zytel stock, no >sights, 10-shot rotary magazine, MSRP $595.00. Mighty pricy pieces of >iron! I do know that the Mini Mark X can be had for $250 out of Gun List. (call 715 445 2214). I have noticed that there is a larger and larger difference between the MSRP and the real price as time goes on. . . any clue as to why? > > Now for a question - why go with the 7.62x39? The cartridge >performance is not as good as the 30-30 - Frank Barnes lists it as >"marginal for deer-sized animals". The cheap surplus ammo for the 7.62x39 Two thoughts: In a bolt action you can handload to much higher levels, I've seen loads for 130gn @ 2600 out of a bolt gun. Secondly, one could have the chamber reamed out to 30 ppc configuration ( it removes most of the body taper on the cartridge, thus drasticly increasing the powder capacity). I don't as of yet have numbers for the 30 ppc, but if anyone is interested I'll send/post them when I get them. -c | Chris Luchini/1110 W. Green/Urbana IL 61801/217-333-0505 | | cbl@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu (best) |Cluch@fnald.bitnet (second chance) | I'm not part of the 91%
maf@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Mark A. Foster) (03/20/91)
From: bbx!therev!maf@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Mark A. Foster) In article <383@erb1.engr.wisc.edu>, cbl@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu (Chris Luchini) wrote: >In article <369@erb1.engr.wisc.edu>, bbx!therev!maf@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Mark A. >Foster) writes: >> >> Now for a question - why go with the 7.62x39? The cartridge >>performance is not as good as the 30-30 - Frank Barnes lists it as >>"marginal for deer-sized animals". The cheap surplus ammo for the 7.62x39 > >Two thoughts: In a bolt action you can handload to much higher levels, I've >seen loads for 130gn @ 2600 out of a bolt gun. Secondly, one could >have the chamber reamed out to 30 ppc configuration ( it removes most of the >body taper on the cartridge, thus drasticly increasing the powder capacity). >I don't as of yet have numbers for the 30 ppc, but if anyone is interested >I'll send/post them when I get them. > That's true, but it seems like a fair amount of trouble (and expense - rechambering should be done by a competent gunsmith) to go to get a hunting or varmint rifle. Given the availability of guns chambered for varmint and hunting rounds, I wouldn't mess with a 7.62x39. This neglects, of course, the fact that it is FUN to rechamber and modify guns. But then, this IS rec.hunting, not rec.guns. B-) Mark --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark A. Foster -> maf@therev.UUCP -> {backbone}!unmvax!bbx!therev!maf or -> bbx!therev!maf@unmvax.cs.unm.edu National Gun Control - vote NO, vote NOW Call Bush at 202-456-1111, CongressCritters at 202-224-3121 Defeat HR-7, S-257, HR-19, HR-282, HR-436, S-51, HR-750, et al. "And you may die of the cold because the path that you have chosen Has warmed your hands but not your heart, and left your cold soul frozen."