hank@uunet.UU.NET (Hank Roberts) (04/26/91)
Every September, I have to go sit out on my back 40 with a bunch of signs, red flags, whistles, the ham radio and (well, never mind the other deterrents). I have no problem with deer hunting per se, and no quarrel with people who want to walk across private property on their way to hunt deer on public property. But I could use some conversation here to plan ahead, if y'all will help. Here are my concerns: 1) people shoot up my fruit trees 2) people drive 4x4s through at night 'cross country' 3) people set up around the spring last fall I had two kids both in heavy camo gear setting on opposite sides of the springbox, both hidden in my windbreak plantings, aiming AT each other. They did not know I or the other guy was there 'til I walked up and moved'em on. The older guys who've been hunting this area since before I was born are no problem; pleasant to talk to, clean up their own shit. But the young kids wearing black and green face paint and camo outfits with new guns and truly zombielike attention show up and are worrying me. One of them practically shat his pants when I walked up behind him to move him off the property; if I`d been a deer I could have gored him (grin). Comments welcome. I'd like to figure out some way to post the boundaries that does not invite people to shoot through the signs into my living area, for instance. Maybe yellow=tape the whole perimeter in plastic flagging .... Again, I have no problem with hunting; it's cleaning up the place that gets to me. I risk being out there because if I'm not there opening weekend, I get people camping/shitting/burning/shooting/stealing in the area. If there are any selfregulating hunters' organizations, I'd like to meet some of them and invite them out for the deer season next fall.
mireley@horus.cem.msu.edu (John Mireley) (04/28/91)
>From article <1991Apr26.063247.20842@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, by decwrl!well.sf.ca.us!well!hank@uunet.UU.NET (Hank Roberts): > > > Every September, I have to go sit out on my back 40 with a bunch of signs, > red flags, whistles, the ham radio and (well, never mind the other > deterrents). I have no problem with deer hunting per se, and no quarrel > with people who want to walk across private property on their way to hunt > deer on public property. > > ..... > > Again, I have no problem with hunting; it's cleaning up the place that gets > to me. I risk being out there because if I'm not there opening weekend, I > get people camping/shitting/burning/shooting/stealing in the area. > > If there are any selfregulating hunters' organizations, I'd like to meet > some of them and invite them out for the deer season next fall. Some property owners around here rent their land to hunters with the understanding that the hunters will post the property and police it. I would suggest archers as they get out early in the season. If there is a lot of room in your area to hunt this probably would not work. John Mireley
wasserbu@ihlpl.att.com (Michael F Wasserburger) (04/28/91)
In article <1991Apr26.063247.20842@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, decwrl!well.sf.ca.us!well!hank@uunet.UU.NET (Hank Roberts) writes: > > > Every September, I have to go sit out on my back 40 with a bunch of signs, > red flags, whistles, the ham radio and (well, never mind the other > deterrents). I have no problem with deer hunting per se, and no quarrel > with people who want to walk across private property on their way to hunt > deer on public property. > > But I could use some conversation here to plan ahead, if y'all will help. > > If there are any selfregulating hunters' organizations, I'd like to meet > some of them and invite them out for the deer season next fall. I take pride in being a responsible hunter and respecting private property. Along those lines, I belong to a hunting organization that also stands for those ethics. The "North American Hunting Club" is a nationwide organization of hunters who also beleive in those ethics. Members of our club who wish to hunt on private property "go the extra mile" beyond asking for permission by offering the land owner their membership card while they are on the land owners property. On the back of the Membership card it says: **** QUOTE **** "To the landowner As a dedicated memeber of the North American Hunting Club, this card holder: o Respects private property o Obeys all game laws o Abides by the rules of Fair Chase o Follows safe fireamrs handling practices o Constantly strives for proficiency with his [her] equipment Thank you for allowing an NAHC member to hunt on your land. Please hold on to this membership card until the end of his [her] hunting day or record his NAHC number, our address and his auto license so that if he does not treat your land with respect you can notify us. We pride ourselves on maintaining an ethical membership base consisting of dedicated sportsmen." **** UNQUOTE **** I have no relationship with the NAHC other than being a satisfied member. If there are any hunters out there that would like to know more about this organization and may consider joining, please email me. I will send you information and an application form. If you also beleive in these ethics and are considering joining, I get "bonus points" for having my name and membership number on your membership application. Mike Wasserburger att.com!ihlpl!wasserbu
technews@iitmax.iit.edu (Kevin Kadow) (04/28/91)
If it wouldn`t harm the trees, how about bright yellow paint all around the
perimeter. (at eye level)
Usually when people trespass it isn`t deliberate property lines sometimes
aren`t that obvious.
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My Employer Disagrees.jasond@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (jason) (04/28/91)
decwrl!well.sf.ca.us!well!hank@uunet.UU.NET (Hank Roberts) writes: >If there are any selfregulating hunters' organizations, I'd like to meet >some of them and invite them out for the deer season next fall. I'm sure that there are many hunters who would gladly protect and take care of your property in exchange for being allowed to hunt it. I know that if I didn't have private property to hunt, I'd do anything to get it. What area of wisconsin is your land? Maybe I know someone who can do it, or maybe a netter can help you out. We post no trespassing / no hunting signs and some bright colored ribbon (flapping from a tree) along our property line. Also, we like to talk to the neighboring owners before the season starts, so that everyone knows where everyone else is. jason Jason Dederich INTERNET: jdederich@uiuc.edu University of Illinois at UC jasond@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu