car@ramecs.UUCP (Chris Rende) (02/15/91)
My 3b1 came shipped with PEGASYS (a CAD graphics package) installed on the hard disk. No floppies, no manual. It is a "test drive" version of PEGASYS. From what I've heard, not all 3b1's have PEGASYS. Since this is a "test drive" version of PEGASYS, would it be "against the law" to share it with others? The "test drive" version won't let you save your drawing until your register the product. It takes up 7 400k floppies. Does anyone use PEGASYS? It looks like a nice package - if you're into that sort of stuff. car. -- Christopher A. Rende Central Cartage (Nixdorf/Pyramid/SysVR2/BSD4.3) uunet!edsews!rphroy!trux!car Multics,DTSS,Unix,Shortwave,Scanners,UnixPC/3B1 trux!car@uunet.uu.net Minix 1.2,PC/XT,Mac+,TRS-80 Model I,1802 ELF trux!ramecs!car "I don't ever remember forgetting anything." - Chris Rende
thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan) (02/19/91)
car@ramecs.UUCP (Chris Rende) in <292@ramecs.UUCP> writes:
My 3b1 came shipped with PEGASYS (a CAD graphics package) installed on
the hard disk. No floppies, no manual. It is a "test drive" version of
PEGASYS.
From what I've heard, not all 3b1's have PEGASYS. Since this is a
"test drive" version of PEGASYS, would it be "against the law" to
share it with others? The "test drive" version won't let you save
your drawing until your register the product.
[...]
If it clearly says "test drive" (or somesuch), I wouldn't see any problems
with it being archived at, say, osu-cis. I just checked the AT&T Software
Products Catalog and the 1988 UNIX Products Directory and could not find
PEGASYS or any variation of that name, so maybe it never made it to market.
My recollection is that some company in Alameda or Berkeley (Calif.) was
developing a product by that name some time ago, maybe what you have is it.
If there's a company name or phone number in that "test drive"'s docs, you
may wish to contact them and see what THEY say!
Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com (OR) {decwrl, mips, fernwood}!btr!thad ]dold@mitisft.Convergent.COM (Clarence Dold) (02/20/91)
in article <1837@public.BTR.COM>, thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan) says: > If it clearly says "test drive" (or somesuch), I wouldn't see any problems > with it being archived at, say, osu-cis. I just checked the AT&T Software > Products Catalog and the 1988 UNIX Products Directory and could not find > PEGASYS or any variation of that name, so maybe it never made it to market. The company that produced PEGASYS used Convergent facilities to conduct training classes on their product ~1985-6. As I recall, the product was available on some other platforms (DEC), and had just been released for the 3B1. The company was based in Walnut Creek. (415) 930-0810 -- --- Clarence A Dold - dold@tsmiti.Convergent.COM (408) 435-5293 ...pyramid!ctnews!tsmiti!dold FAX (408) 435-3105 P.O.Box 6685, San Jose, CA 95150-6685 MS#10-007
bbh@mtek.com (Bud Hovell @ Mtek) (02/24/91)
In article <1837@public.BTR.COM> thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan) writes: <car@ramecs.UUCP (Chris Rende) in <292@ramecs.UUCP> writes: < < My 3b1 came shipped with PEGASYS (a CAD graphics package) installed on < the hard disk. No floppies, no manual. It is a "test drive" version of < PEGASYS. < <My recollection is that some company in Alameda or Berkeley (Calif.) was <developing a product by that name some time ago, maybe what you have is it. <If there's a company name or phone number in that "test drive"'s docs, you <may wish to contact them and see what THEY say! This software *was* released for sale and was demoed at at least one AT&T sales office. A company I was associated with purchased 2 3B1s and 2 copies of Pegasys back in, um, about 1986-7, and it had a number of perceived deficiencies which resulted in a major dispute between the company, AT&T, and the software vendor. Finally, ATT agreed to take back the 3B1s, but the software vendor basically refused to refund any portion of the purchase price, even though the software was physically returned to them as soon as the problems became obvious, and they acknowledged such receipt. But they took the position that they "hadn't misrepesented" the product - which no one had accused them of doing - and refused refund. And it was pretty spendy - $5,000 per copy, if memory serves me. Lent a whole new meaning to the term "CAD software". :-) The major complaint with the software was that it was *inordinately* slow in building files, even compared with then-current DOS-based products such as AutoCad (which the company ended up buying and using). This is the limit of my knowledge of PEGASYS, but if anyone wants to talk to a couple of the people having direct, specific knowledge about the software and its deficiencies, send me email and I will put you in touch with them. One of them even still owns an original copy of PEGASYS, still in the shrink-wrap, as far as I know. -- ____________ bud@mtek.com "Tuva or Bust!" - Richard Feynman