[comp.sys.3b1] Can the 3b1 power supply handle 2 fans

sardella@world.std.com (Norman R Sardella) (03/20/91)

Can the 3b1 power supply handle 2 fans wired to the power supply
the same way as the 7300 power supply fans are wired.  I need this for
an external hard.
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floyd@ims.alaska.edu (Floyd Davidson) (03/21/91)

In article <1991Mar20.141053.3852@world.std.com> sardella@world.std.com (Norman R Sardella) writes:
>Can the 3b1 power supply handle 2 fans wired to the power supply
>the same way as the 7300 power supply fans are wired.  I need this for
>an external hard.
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>Norman "Stormin" sardella
>Leisure: sardella@world.std.com 
>Home: uunet!world!stormy!norm
>Work: sardella@sud509.ed.ray.com 


Use an AC fan.  That takes the load completely off the power supply.

While you are at it, get two fans and replace the DC one in the 3b1
and you will take a little more load off the supply.

Floyd
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renkel@motcid.UUCP (Will Renkel) (03/21/91)

Last fall I had an "overheat" problem when the single fan in my 3b1 was freezing up.
The solution - remove the styrofoam by the other inlet and install a second
fan using the same power supply.  Why should it work?  According to an ATT source,
the 7300 had the same powere supply setup and 2 fans.  In fact, dont know why
the second fan was rfemoved from the 3b1.

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murphyn@motcid.UUCP (Neal P. Murphy) (03/22/91)

renkel@motcid.UUCP (Will Renkel) writes:

>...
>the 7300 had the same powere supply setup and 2 fans.  In fact, dont know why
>the second fan was rfemoved from the 3b1.

The second fan was removed because it didn't add to the cooling. In fact, it
would appear that the machine runs cooler with just the one fan pulling air across
the power supply.

The 3B1 has a power supply that yields an extra 20-50W of power - needed for the
bigger disk drives, I imagine.

NPN

floyd@ims.alaska.edu (Floyd Davidson) (03/22/91)

In article <6744@bone13.UUCP> murphyn@motcid.UUCP (Neal P. Murphy) writes:
>renkel@motcid.UUCP (Will Renkel) writes:
>
>>...
>>the 7300 had the same powere supply setup and 2 fans.  In fact, dont know why
>>the second fan was rfemoved from the 3b1.
>
>The second fan was removed because it didn't add to the cooling. In fact, it
>would appear that the machine runs cooler with just the one fan pulling air across
>the power supply.
>
>The 3B1 has a power supply that yields an extra 20-50W of power - needed for the
>bigger disk drives, I imagine.
>
>NPN

The second fan, if it blows outward, causes a vacuum in the center
area of the motherboard.

The way around that is to put the fan in the way fans should be,
blowing inward so the air can be filtered.  Unfortunately the
fan by the power supply will spread the heat all around the
machine if it is reversed to blow inward.

Replacing the fans with AC units takes the load off the DC
supply, which is nice, but they are always at full speed and
thus make more noise.  An AC fan will be more reliable.  If the
machine starts up cool enough that the DC fan is on low speed,
and the fan is old and the bearings worn, the fan may not start.
The fan itself then heats up and becomes impossible to start,
even when it gets full voltage for high speed (which it will as
soon as the power supply overheats).  The power supply overheats
and shuts down, and recycles itself.  Sometimes the case above
the power supply melts...  Some times the power supply melts...

What I've had for three years is two AC fans, with the second
one blowing inward and with a filter on it.  I put the second
fan in before the DC fan went bad, which it eventually did.
No problem...  It was then replaced with an AC fan.  My 3b1
sounds like a 747 but I don't worry about a meltdown either.

Floyd
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