templon@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffrey templon) (05/18/91)
In article <117@fbits.ttank.com> Mariusz@fbits.ttank.com (Mariusz Stanczak) writes: >> I remember hearing Rob Pike at Usenix picking on billing Mach as a >> microkernel, and telling how much of Plan 9 you could get for the same >> number of lines of source. It included the entire OS, the compiler >[a list causing extensive salivation deleted] > Speaking of which, what is PLAN 9 (other than the original Unix guys' next unix.) Where can I get more info about it? Why does noone on this group talk about getting a Plan 9 port to the 3b1 instead of a Mach port or minix port or whatever. Would like any info about Plan 9. Also, what machines are now running it and who sells them. Jeff
yarvin-norman@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin) (05/20/91)
templon@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffrey templon) writes: >Speaking of which, what is PLAN 9 (other than the original Unix guys' >next unix.) It is an operating system designed to work well with networks. Other than that: well, it's got some extremely nice stuff. > Where can I get more info about it? ftp doc/plan-9.ps.Z from cs.toronto.edu. This is a PostScript file. They ask that you not ftp during high-use hours. > Why does noone >on this group talk about getting a Plan 9 port to the 3b1 instead >of a Mach port or minix port or whatever. > >Would like any info about Plan 9. Also, what machines are now running >it and who sells them. It is running on machines at Bell Labs. The distribution policy is, from what I have heard, the same as that for V8, V9, and V10 Unix, i.e. "You can't have it." A pity. Especially since it is so easy to port (they mention one port as being done in 19 hours).
Mariusz@fbits.ttank.com (Mariusz Stanczak) (05/20/91)
In article <1991May18.155116.22200@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, templon@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffrey templon) writes: > Speaking of which, what is PLAN 9 (other than the original Unix guys' > next unix.) Where can I get more info about it? Why does noone ...and not quite unix. Let me reffer for to a recent article in Unix World called (I think) Plan 9 From Outer Space (just like the movie). Unfortunatelly, I do not have the article handy to give you more details 'cept it was still in this year' issue. > on this group talk about getting a Plan 9 port to the 3b1 instead > of a Mach port or minix port or whatever. Reasons are many, and they will be obvious to you after you read the article, but two should be enough to quote here; first, it is a multiprocessor/network OS with servers for files, compute needs, etc. The other is that it's being kept under covers, and if I remember right; it's not even yet made available to academia. -Mariusz -- INET: Mariusz@fbits.ttank.com UUCP: ..!uunet!longbow!ttank!fbits!Mariusz
yarvin-norman@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin) (05/23/91)
I wrote: >It is running on machines at Bell Labs. The distribution policy is, from >what I have heard, the same as that for V8, V9, and V10 Unix, i.e. "You >can't have it." Apparently what I heard was either wrong or out of date; Plan 9 has in fact been made available to interested educational institutions. I don't know much more.