[rec.guns] Air Guns

jde%zardoz.uucp@ics.uci.edu (-Jeff Ellis()) (05/22/91)

Ok... for all of you air guns users out there, I have a few questions.
I would like to get a air pistol to get more low cost practice in. 
I currently own a SA .45 Goverment model, but can't get range time as much
as I would like to....

I have been looking into getting a .177 to shoot in the back yard or indoors
but want a good adult air gun. So have been looking at the Beeman P-1 magnum
or maybe a Webley Tempest or Hurricane. Has anybody out there used one of these
or have any other comments or sugestions about would be good? 
Also are any of you able to get a good deal on one of these?

Thanks!
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MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (05/23/91)

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#                            ... So have been looking at the Beeman P-1 magnum
# or maybe a Webley Tempest or Hurricane. Has anybody out there used one of thes
# or have any other comments or sugestions about would be good?
# Also are any of you able to get a good deal on one of these?

The Webleys are excellent firearms trainers as they are *very*
critical as to hold and trigger release. The trigger is pretty
heavy on both pistols. The P1 is good for .45 owners as the grip
is identical. For a good price, contact Firearms & Supplies in
Hancock, MI. You can find their phone # and address in Shotgun
News. They're a wholesaler, so don't expect any friendly chats
or advice.

wb9omc@ee.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick) (05/23/91)

everex!jde%zardoz.uucp@ics.uci.edu (-Jeff Ellis()) writes:
#Ok... for all of you air guns users out there, I have a few questions.
#I would like to get a air pistol to get more low cost practice in. 
#I currently own a SA .45 Goverment model, but can't get range time as much
#as I would like to....
#I have been looking into getting a .177 to shoot in the back yard or indoors
#but want a good adult air gun. So have been looking at the Beeman P-1 magnum
#or maybe a Webley Tempest or Hurricane. Has anybody out there used one of these

	Jeff, 
	I think the guns you mentioned are pretty pricy items.  If you
want to shoot indoors at a 10-meter distance, you might want to try
one of the better Crosman air pistols.  I own a 357-6 which was cheap,
by comparison (about $45.00) and is surprisingly accurate for the price.
I'd like to get the -8 kit which lets you remove the 6" barrel and plop
on an 8" barrel (for combat shooters there is also a -4 kit although
personally I never saw the utility of combat airgun shooting.....).
A step up would be either the Medalist or American Classic - if I recall
correctly they are similar but one is .177 and the other .22.

Their competitors at Daisy offer some air pistols that are decidedly
a step up in the 7xx series, the 717, 747 and 777.  The 777 is pretty
expensive, methinks, maybe over $150 but is reputed to be fairly
good for the price.  A coworker has a 747 (I think) and says it is really
quite nice.

BTW, when I shoot my 357-6 at 10-meter targets, I had been using the
*rifle* targets, which are rather smaller than 10-meter pistol targets.
The 357-6 will dump 7 or 8 or 9 out of ten shots (given a good CO2
powerlet.....it IS a gas gun) inside about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch from center
if I hold it steady.  If I don't, well......  :-)

The other Crosmans I mentioned are both pump-up types if I have recalled
the models correctly (I don't own either one due to limited budget....).

If you want hard data, well, I don't have it at work.  I *think* the
357-6 shoots something like 380 FPS on a full powerlet while adding
the -8 barrel supposedly takes you to around 400 to 420.....I'm trying
to regurgitate this from memory, so if it isn't quite right you'll
know why.

Duane

cbl@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu (Chris Luchini) (05/24/91)

In article <34819@mimsy.umd.edu>, wb9omc@ee.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick) writes:
[...]
#
#BTW, when I shoot my 357-6 at 10-meter targets, I had been using the
#*rifle* targets, which are rather smaller than 10-meter pistol targets.
#The 357-6 will dump 7 or 8 or 9 out of ten shots (given a good CO2
#powerlet.....it IS a gas gun) inside about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch from center
#if I hold it steady.  If I don't, well......  :-)
[...]
#
#Duane


	Which brings up another point: I too am in the market for a
	good air pistol. However, I want something that I can practice
	speed shooting with, so it must be a repeater, and be able to
	group .5-1" at 10 yards. 
	Any suggestions?
	-cbl
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petert@uunet.UU.NET (Peter Toth) (05/24/91)

everex!jde%zardoz.uucp@ics.uci.edu <Jeff Ellis> writes:
#Ok... for all of you air guns users out there, I have a few questions.
#I would like to get a air pistol to get more low cost practice in. 
#I currently own a SA .45 Goverment model, but can't get range time as much
#as I would like to....

Since my mail bounced, here goes:

I believe Crossman makes a kit that replaces the slide on the 45 with a
CO2 powered pelletgun. The cylinder, if memory serves me correctly,
goes into the magazine well.

At any rate, a kit like that allows you to practice with the very gun
you want to work with.

Peter Toth