bercov@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov (John Bercovitz) (05/25/91)
Warning! - you could be had by Lyman: I'm a bit angry with Lyman right now. OK, I'm livid. A few weeks ago I bought Lyman mold #401638 which casts a 175 gn truncated cone for the 10 mm auto. I also bought the correct (.401) Lyman sizing die for my Lyman 450 sizer/lubricator. I cast up a batch of bullets using Lyman #2 alloy which the Lyman book says is the alloy the molds are designed around. The bullets cast out at .404. Using 50-50 alox/beeswax, I tried to size and lubricate the bullets. I could barely move the operating handle; the press groaned and squawked. The bullets came out .402 diameter. So I called up Lyman (1-800-22 LYMAN). The nice man on the other end of the line said that you can't size a bullet of that diameter and alloy down more than .002 so I had to either go to a soft (1Sn/40Pb) alloy (In a 10 mm auto? You gotta be nuts!) or get a mold that would cast .403 diameter. He said that if I continued to size down those oversize bullets, I would permanently damage my Lyman sizer/lubricator. Then he went on to say that .404 was within Lyman's tolerances for that mold!!! But he added that if I sent the mold back to the factory with an explanation of the problem, the factory would send me a new mold. So I did just that - wrote them a nice letter telling them that the mold cast .404 and about what the nice man on the phone had said. I got my mold back last night; the only paperwork with it was a computer print out with one sentence on it: "IN SPEC WITH #2 ALLOY -- .404" RETURN AS IS". I could tell by looking at the mold that they had actually taken the time to cast bullets in #2 alloy and measure them! If they had that kind of money to waste, why not send me a mold of the correct diameter? Because they don't make the mold in the correct diameter, that's why! It's a new mold design and the tooling hasn't worn in enough yet to make a correctly-sized mold and it won't for sometime to come. Apparently Lyman makes their tooling extra-large so that it will last a long time. Consequently, first they make a lot of molds that are much too large, then they regrind the tooling, make a lot of molds that are a little too big, then regrind again and make a lot of molds which are just right. So what's a mother to do? I don't know; you tell me. It seemed the least I could do was warn you guys to buy from a manufacturer other than Lyman. John Bercovitz JHBercovitz@lbl.gov