scrandell@UCSD.EDU (Dirty Sean ) (05/20/91)
If you really want to get a nice compact 9mm then I would suggest a Glock 19. I have got a 17 and I love it. If you've tried them and don't like them then I can understand, but if you have never shot one I would strongly urge you to try one. Glocks are a truly unique gun. Shoot one, you'll see what I mean. I worked at Discount Gun Mart in San Diego for a few months over summer and I didn't sell too many Smith 9mm's. They are not bad guns, people just kept on buying 92F's and Glock's. Have you considered a 92F compact? It is shorter but not really thinner. Capacity is 13+1. The Glock 19 is 15+1. :-) The whole decision should boil down also to your opinion. Get the gun that feels good in your hand once you narrow it down to a few choices. If it feels goofy in your hand then you'll shoot goofy. Good luck. Sean Crandell Glock 17 SKS S&W 63
joel@peora.sdc.ccur.com (Joel Upchurch) (05/22/91)
I own a S&W 6906 and I think it is an excellent pistol. It has
been very reliable and accurate. I don't remember having a jam
with it since I broke it in and I can fire groups as tight as I
can with my Taurus PT99, which has a barrel nearly 1.5 inches
longer. It is also easy to clean. I don't think the ambidextrous
safety is a big deal because I don't think it is practical to carry
it with the safety on. I practiced trying to draw it with the safety
on and I wouldn't want to count on being able the draw it and flip
the safety off and fire it quickly. Flipping off the safety takes quite
a bit more effort and the motion isn't as natural as a 1911 style
safety. The 6906 or any other S&W 3rd generation pistol should be
quite safe to carry with the safety off. Putting the safety on when
it isn't actually on your person is a pretty good idea, but so is
leaving the chamber empty. At least I think so. A cab driver in Miami
is still alive today, because the 6906 the robber tried to shoot him
with, was stolen from a glove compartment earlier and still had the
safety on. The cab driver put several .45 caliber holes in the bad
guy while the bad guy was still trying to get the gun to fire.
If I was buying a pistol today, I would take a good look at the new
double action only version of the 6906 (6946?). The absense of the
safety/decocker would reduce the thickness of the pistol of the pistol
quite a bit.
--
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joel@peora.ccur.com {uiucuxc,hoptoad,petsd,ucf-cs}!peora!joel (407) 859-0982klm@uunet.UU.NET (Kevin L. McBride) (05/22/91)
In article <34642@mimsy.umd.edu> ejohnson@cs.washington.edu (Eric Johnson) writes:
#I am looking at getting a compact double-action 9mm pistol. I would
#like something with an ambidextrous hammer-drop safety. I really like
#the Smith 6906. Does anyone out here have that pistol and what do you think
#of it? Thanks for your help. Reply here or Email...
As another netter recently quipped when I asked pretty much the same
question:
"Damn Smith and Wesson. They make too many damn good guns."
The 69__ S&W lineup has too many different combinations of features,
some nice, some not so. I was considering getting either a 6906 (or
was it the 6926 or the 6946? I forget) or a SIG P228.
I ended up buying the SIG. It's a simpler weapon with no options on
the operating system. If it's stainless you are looking for, get the
S&W. SIGs don't come that way (yet.)
Don't get me wrong, the S&W is a fine weapon and I almost bought one.
It's just that I liked the SIG a little bit better and when I had the
opportunity to get a SIG for $30 less than a S&W, I bought the SIG.
The only problem I've had with the SIG so far is that I tend to worry
too much when it gets wet. :-) I forget that they are made to take
abuse. On the other hand, when you pay ~ $600 for something, you
don't want to abuse it. The SIG is a keeper which means that I've got
to take good care of it.
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Natural is different things to different people. For some people, carrying a fully cocked weapon, no matter if it has a safety or not, is not natural. (I just barely got over that hang-up.) For other people, carrying a weapon without a safety on whatsoever gives them the heevy jeevies. I'm not saying that you're not willing to make the effort, but if you own the weapon, you should be able to operate all controls naturally. My Beretta's safety is naturally always on, and my thumbs automatically stab up towards the slide. When I first started, I left the safety on, but now, the safety stab is a natural thing TO ME!!! However, if you don't like the safeties on your 69', then go ahead and by the DAO. After all, that's what Smith and Wesson makes all those variations for. Dougster.
bashiti%kira.UVM.EDU@griffin.UVM.EDU (Abbas J Bashiti) (05/30/91)
#From article <34773@mimsy.umd.edu>, by gozer!klm@uunet.UU.NET (Kevin L. McBride):
# In article <34642@mimsy.umd.edu> ejohnson@cs.washington.edu (Eric Johnson) writes:
# I ended up buying the SIG. It's a simpler weapon with no options on
# the operating system. If it's stainless you are looking for, get the
# S&W. SIGs don't come that way (yet.)
#
Well, not quite true any more. I have seen a stainless SIG for sale.
It was the full size 9mm P226(?). Now, all they have to do is put out the
P220 in stainless, and I may be in the market for a SIG!
later,
AJjohn@uunet.UU.NET (John Gayman) (06/01/91)
#
# # I ended up buying the SIG. It's a simpler weapon with no options on
# # the operating system. If it's stainless you are looking for, get the
# # S&W. SIGs don't come that way (yet.)
# #
# Well, not quite true any more. I have seen a stainless SIG for sale.
# It was the full size 9mm P226(?). Now, all they have to do is put out the
# P220 in stainless, and I may be in the market for a SIG!
#
The SIG P-220 comes in a bright nickel finish as well as some type of
teflon coating. When I was first shopping for my P-220 the dealer had
difficulty finding a standard one but he had easy access to the nickel
plated, "Sig-light" sight equipted ones. At the time I only wanted
the basic model.
If anyone is interested, I contacted SIGARMS to get the details on having
SIG-LITE night sights installed on my P-220. Mounting sights on this
beast is a bit tricky as unlike the P-226, the P-220 front sight is
machined as part of the slide. What SIG does is mill out a small dove-tail
in the slide for the new front sight. Total cost is $152. This includes
milling the slide, cost of front and rear sights, installation of sights
and return shipping. The time estimate is 3 weeks. They ask that you only
send the slide and they insist it will shoot the same point of aim as
originally. I'll be sending mine for rework next week.
John
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Marysville, PA 17053 | Packet: WA3WBU @ WB3EAH klm@uunet.UU.NET (Kevin L. McBride) (06/01/91)
In article <35029@mimsy.umd.edu> bashiti%kira.UVM.EDU@griffin.UVM.EDU (Abbas J Bashiti) writes:
##From article <34773@mimsy.umd.edu>, by gozer!klm@uunet.UU.NET (Kevin L. McBride):
## I ended up buying the SIG. It's a simpler weapon with no options on
## the operating system. If it's stainless you are looking for, get the
## S&W. SIGs don't come that way (yet.)
##
# Well, not quite true any more. I have seen a stainless SIG for sale.
#It was the full size 9mm P226(?). Now, all they have to do is put out the
#P220 in stainless, and I may be in the market for a SIG!
Interesting. Are you sure it was stainless?
My 1991 SIGARMS catalog says that various models are available in
blue, nickel, or K-Kote (a finish not unlike parkerizing.) Nickel
plate sometimes looks a lot like stainless. Nickel plate also
sometimes comes off or gets badly scratched, not unlike blue finish.
I'm sure that SIG's nickel finish is very high quality, but I haven't
seen it for myself yet. I would have liked to get my P228 in nickel,
but was told that they weren't available just quite yet. Besides
that, it adds almost $100 to the price of the weapon.
--
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President // by the way, is being fought with YOUR money.
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uunet!wang!gozer!klm \X/ Vote Libertarian.bashiti%kira.UVM.EDU@griffin.UVM.EDU (Abbas J Bashiti) (06/06/91)
#From article <35132@mimsy.umd.edu>, by gozer!klm@uunet.UU.NET (Kevin L. McBride):
# In article <35029@mimsy.umd.edu> bashiti%kira.UVM.EDU@griffin.UVM.EDU (Abbas J Bashiti) writes:
# ##From article <34773@mimsy.umd.edu>, by gozer!klm@uunet.UU.NET (Kevin L. McBride):
# ## I ended up buying the SIG. It's a simpler weapon with no options on
# ## the operating system. If it's stainless you are looking for, get the
# ## S&W. SIGs don't come that way (yet.)
# ##
# # Well, not quite true any more. I have seen a stainless SIG for sale.
# #It was the full size 9mm P226(?). Now, all they have to do is put out the
# #P220 in stainless, and I may be in the market for a SIG!
#
# Interesting. Are you sure it was stainless?
#
Well, I was 90+% sure. Now, with all the mail and all the "are you
sures?", I think i'll have to check. I was sure the box said stainless,
and it was the right color (stainless). I'm going home this weekend.
If I get a chance, i'll stop in and double check. I know there are a lot
of SIG fans out there who'd love one...
later,
AJ