U42883%uicvm.uic.edu@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Vic W) (06/11/91)
Another user requested similar information, however, my question was unaswered. I have not been a regular reader of rec.guns, but I think I will be soon. My question is this: My sister lives in Dallas, Texas and while visiting I picked out a Bersa .380 that I would like to purchase. A valid Texas drivers license is required for purchase, so I would have to have her buy it for me. 1. Is this legal if I plan to register the gun when shes get it to me in Illinois? 2. What avenues can she use to get it to me? (She'll be flying to Illinois in July). She is very concerned with the prospect that she would be doing something illegal, so any information I receive would be very helpful. I do have an Illinois' Firearms Owners Identification card. I have not been a frequent reader of rec.guns, so E-mail along with a posting would be very much appreciated. Thanks. Vic --- U42883@UICVM.UIC.EDU U08785@UICVM.UIC.EDU U29531@UICVM.UIC.EDU
wdo@inel.gov (william d orr) (06/12/91)
In article <35429@mimsy.umd.edu> U42883%uicvm.uic.edu@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Vic W) writes:
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#My sister lives in Dallas, Texas and while visiting I picked out a Bersa .380
#that I would like to purchase. A valid Texas drivers license is required for
#purchase, so I would have to have her buy it for me.
#1. Is this legal if I plan to register the gun when shes get it to me in
# Illinois?
#
#2. What avenues can she use to get it to me? (She'll be flying to Illinois in
# July).
#
#Vic
I don't know about the transfer of ownership issue but I do know that there is no problem transporting firearms including handguns on commercial airlines.
Their requirements are:
1. The weapon must be packed in a HARD sided case and checked as baggage
(not carry on). Suitcases are okay.
2. The weapon must be unloaded.
3. The passenger provides a letter documenting that a firearm is packed in checked luggage and attesting to the fact that it is not loaded. this letter must be presented at baggage checkin.
As long as ammunition is not carried there is not a problem.
Would not be a bad idea to advance contact the particular airline to be used to make sure that they do not have any additional requirements.
Hope this is of help.
Billjeb@corona.att.com (James E Bessette) (06/13/91)
In article <35480@mimsy.umd.edu>, wdo@inel.gov (william d orr) writes: # In article <35429@mimsy.umd.edu> U42883%uicvm.uic.edu@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Vic W) writes: # I don't know about the transfer of ownership issue but I do know that there is no problem transporting firearms including handguns on commercial airlines. # # Their requirements are: # # 1. The weapon must be packed in a HARD sided case and checked as baggage # (not carry on). Suitcases are okay. # # 2. The weapon must be unloaded. # # 3. The passenger provides a letter documenting that a firearm is packed in checked luggage and attesting to the fact that it is not loaded. this letter must be presented at baggage checkin. I have never had to do this. I've only flown inside the U.S. Perhaps this was international. I agree with 4 below - this could have been airline specific. (I have added the "4" to Bill's line.) # # As long as ammunition is not carried there is not a problem. # 4. > Would not be a bad idea to advance contact the particular airline to be used to make sure that they do not have any additional requirements. # # Hope this is of help. # # Bill Jim Bessette att!corona!jeb
wdo@inel.gov (william d orr) (06/14/91)
In article <35546@mimsy.umd.edu> jeb@corona.att.com (James E Bessette) writes: #In article <35480@mimsy.umd.edu>, wdo@inel.gov (william d orr) writes: Reference transporting firearms on airlines ## 3. The passenger provides a letter documenting that a firearm is packed in checked luggage and attesting to the fact that it is not loaded. this letter must be presented at baggage checkin. # #I have never had to do this. I've only flown inside the U.S. Perhaps this #was international. I agree with 4 below - this could have been airline #specific. (I have added the "4" to Bill's line.) ## This was domestic flight on American Airlines. As we have noted other airlines may differ in policies. ## #4. > Would not be a bad idea to advance contact the particular airline to be used to make sure that they do not have any additional requirements.
gary@gatech.edu (Gary Coffman) (06/15/91)
In article <35429@mimsy.umd.edu> U42883%uicvm.uic.edu@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Vic W) writes:
#
#My sister lives in Dallas, Texas and while visiting I picked out a Bersa .380
#that I would like to purchase. A valid Texas drivers license is required for
#purchase, so I would have to have her buy it for me.
#1. Is this legal if I plan to register the gun when shes get it to me in
# Illinois?
#
#2. What avenues can she use to get it to me? (She'll be flying to Illinois in
# July).
#
#She is very concerned with the prospect that she would be doing something
#illegal, so any information I receive would be very helpful. I do have an
#Illinois' Firearms Owners Identification card.
No, this is called a strawman transaction and is used as an example of
illegal activity in the handbook for dealers from ATF. Your sister could
be charged with trafficing in contraband if she transports this firearm
interstate for you. If you want the gun, simply have the Texas dealer
ship it to you through an Illinois dealer. Most dealers will handle
this for you for a nominal charge.
Gary