harrism@aquila.rtp.dg.com (Mike Harris) (06/12/91)
In article <35421@mimsy.umd.edu> you write:
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Add a powder tricker, powder funnel, inside/outside case chamfer
tool, Dillon (or new size RCBS) primer flip tray, extre primer
tubes.
The electronic scales are great but if you won't be working up
loads often a simpler one will suffice and be much cheaper. I
use an RCBS 10-10.
I like the Wilson case trimmer.
If you want to de-cap and then clean your brass you'll also
want an extra too head with just a decap die installed. That
way you don't have to take the brass out manually and can cycle
it around. If you make the decap die a sizing/decap die and get
a toolhead setup for each calibre then you can trim your brass
after cleaning it without having to add another step.
You might want to get extra powder charge bars so you can
swap charge bars without having to reset them each time (although
the mic is handy for this).
I'd also suggest the dillon spare parts kit. (I haven't needed it
yet, but I don't want to have hungry carpet hang me for a match).
For those intereated in starting, one doesn't *have* to have all
of this to get started or to be successful, but he looked like
he was ready do drop the bucks..................
Mike Harris - KM4UL harrism@rtp.dg.com
Data General Corporation {world}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!harrism
Research Triangle Park, NCjamaass@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Jeffrey A. Maass) (06/13/91)
harrism@aquila.rtp.dg.com (Mike Harris) writes:
# In article <35421@mimsy.umd.edu> you write:
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# I like the Wilson case trimmer.
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# If you want to de-cap and then clean your brass you'll also
# want an extra too head with just a decap die installed. That
Is it necessary to trim 9mm/.45ACP brass? I'd been told that
the non-rifle cases won't need trimmed.
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# For those intereated in starting, one doesn't *have* to have all
# of this to get started or to be successful, but he looked like
# he was ready do drop the bucks..................
Mike: FYI, I sold a KLM KT34XA to transfer funds inter-hobby!
73, Jeff K8ND
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who doesn't have their own obnoxious signature yetcash@convex.com (Peter Cash) (06/14/91)
In article <35569@mimsy.umd.edu> nstar!bluemoon!jamaass@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Jeffrey A. Maass) writes: #Is it necessary to trim 9mm/.45ACP brass? I'd been told that #the non-rifle cases won't need trimmed. I've been reloading .44 magnum and .44 special cartridges for about 2 years, and haven't yet had to use the trimmer I bought when I got started. So I'm inclined to think that a trimmer isn't something you ought to get at first--just if you notice that your cases are really lengthening. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Die Welt ist alles, was Zerfall ist. | Peter Cash | (apologies to Ludwig Wittgenstein) |cash@convex.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
bobd@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bob DeBula) (06/15/91)
In article <35604@mimsy.umd.edu> cash@convex.com (Peter Cash) writes: #In article <35569@mimsy.umd.edu> nstar!bluemoon!jamaass@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Jeffrey A. Maass) writes: # ##Is it necessary to trim 9mm/.45ACP brass? I'd been told that ##the non-rifle cases won't need trimmed. # #I've been reloading .44 magnum and .44 special cartridges for about 2 #years, and haven't yet had to use the trimmer I bought when I got started. #So I'm inclined to think that a trimmer isn't something you ought to get at #first--just if you notice that your cases are really lengthening. # And then again, just about every piece of brand new factory brass I've ever bought for .41 Mag, .357 Mag, or .44 Mag. has required trimming immediately. If you use very light loads, you may not have to trim, but magnum loads usually require it every second or third loading in my experience. As far as 9mm is concerned, I *know* that I've *never* had to trim a 9mm case (I measure them just to be safe). All the 9mm cases I've ever gotten have been somewhat under maximum length. I can't say I remember ever having to trim .45ACP either (but I would still measure them from time to time). The usual disclaimers (the need for which is a symtom of a society more concerned with greed driven legality than justice IMHO) apply. -- ========================================================================== Bob DeBula | Disclaimer: These are my views, not the U's
harrism@aquila.rtp.dg.com (Mike Harris) (06/15/91)
In article <35604@mimsy.umd.edu>, cash@convex.com (Peter Cash) writes: |> In article <35569@mimsy.umd.edu> nstar!bluemoon!jamaass@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Jeffrey A. Maass) writes: |> |> #Is it necessary to trim 9mm/.45ACP brass? I'd been told that |> #the non-rifle cases won't need trimmed. |> |> I've been reloading .44 magnum and .44 special cartridges for about 2 |> years, and haven't yet had to use the trimmer I bought when I got started. |> So I'm inclined to think that a trimmer isn't something you ought to get at |> first--just if you notice that your cases are really lengthening. I hadn't noticed stretching of my cases, however, I did notice rather large variations in the lengths of the cases between lots and brands. I am experimenting with match prepping pistol brass (200 rounds per caliber) for silhouette matches. For these I wanted all the cases at exactly the same length so that they would get a perfectly consistent crimp (A heavy crimp is necessary in my case). In addition to the case trimming I used a Sinclair primer pocket uniformer and a flash hole deburrer on the cases. I would agree that the trimmer for most pistol work is not necessary. regards, Mike Harris - KM4UL harrism@rtp.dg.com Data General Corporation {world}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!harrism Research Triangle Park, NC
john@uunet.UU.NET (John Gayman) (06/15/91)
In article <35569@mimsy.umd.edu>, nstar!bluemoon!jamaass@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Jeffrey A. Maass) writes: # harrism@aquila.rtp.dg.com (Mike Harris) writes: # Is it necessary to trim 9mm/.45ACP brass? I'd been told that # the non-rifle cases won't need trimmed. # I've reloaded my batch of .45 cases about 25 times. I've never had to trim them. In fact, they seem to keep getting shorter. :-) Rifle on the otherhand is a different story. John -- John Gayman, WA3WBU | UUCP: uunet!wa3wbu!john 1869 Valley Rd. | Marysville, PA 17053 | Packet: WA3WBU @ WB3EAH