[rec.guns] glass targets, a no-no

bercov@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov (John Bercovitz) (06/15/91)

I sure don't want to be a preacher, but some mention was made of shooting
bottles recently.  I hope that bottle-shooting was done at the local dump.
We shooters gotta be careful about making enemies we don't need.  Busted
glass will do that for you.  The stuff's impossible to completely police
up.  No flames intended.
     JHBercovitz@lbl.gov    (John Bercovitz)


[MODERATOR:  A good reminder, John, thanks!]

klm@uunet.UU.NET (Kevin L. McBride) (06/20/91)

In article <35661@mimsy.umd.edu> bercov@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov (John Bercovitz) writes:
#I sure don't want to be a preacher, but some mention was made of shooting
#bottles recently.  I hope that bottle-shooting was done at the local dump.
#We shooters gotta be careful about making enemies we don't need.  Busted
#glass will do that for you.  The stuff's impossible to completely police
#up.  No flames intended.
#     JHBercovitz@lbl.gov    (John Bercovitz)
#
#
#[MODERATOR:  A good reminder, John, thanks!]

Glass is an awful lot of fun but, as it has been pointed out many
times by many different people, very messy.

A great alternative is aluminum soft drink cans and beer cans (as long
as you didn't remove the contents immediately prior to shooting)
filled with water.

I used to get frustrated shooting at cans on top of a target stand and
having them not move when I scored a clean hit.  Most handgun loads
(FMJs, WCs, and SWCs) tend to punch through clean and don't dissipate
enough energy to knock the can over.

Fill the can with water and use hollow points.  The hollow point
starts expanding in the water and dissipates a significant amount of
energy.  The resulting explosion of the can and the spray of water is
just as dramatic as glass, if not more so, and you only have to pick
up the shredded scrap aluminum.

The boys in my Scout troop really get a kick out of this when we go to
the range.  They, however, have to do it with a rifle.  Handguns are
verboten in Boy Scouts.  At least on 'official' scouting functions.

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kozowski@ohsu.EDU (Eric Kozowski) (06/21/91)

In article <35817@mimsy.umd.edu> gozer!klm@uunet.UU.NET (Kevin L. McBride) writes:
#In article <35661@mimsy.umd.edu> bercov@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov (John Bercovitz) writes:
#A great alternative is aluminum soft drink cans and beer cans (as long
#as you didn't remove the contents immediately prior to shooting)
#filled with water.
#
#Fill the can with water and use hollow points.  The hollow point
#starts expanding in the water and dissipates a significant amount of
#energy.  The resulting explosion of the can and the spray of water is
#just as dramatic as glass, if not more so, and you only have to pick
#up the shredded scrap aluminum.
#
Don't use extremely fast (>4000fps) rounds though.  I did this onece
with a .220 swift (~4100fps) and completely blew the can apart.  There
was only a few pieces of can left that were bigger than a quarter.  Just
a word of warning.


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Oregon Health Sciences University

technews@iitmax.iit.edu (Kevin Kadow) (06/22/91)

Icicles can be great fun as targets, or make large ice blocks (cut the top off
a soda can, line it with saran wrap add water and freeze)

Ice shatters as nicely as does glass, and you don't have to pick up the pieces.

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mike@uunet.UU.NET (Mike Higgins) (06/22/91)

In <35817@mimsy.umd.edu> gozer!klm@uunet.UU.NET (Kevin L. McBride) writes:

#Fill the can with water and use hollow points.  The hollow point
#starts expanding in the water and dissipates a significant amount of
#energy.  The resulting explosion of the can and the spray of water is
#just as dramatic as glass, if not more so, and you only have to pick
	I showed up at the Los Gatos gun club with some friends and a bunch
of containers for water sports like this when I was in the south bay
recently, and they wouldn't let us fill them!  Drought you know.
	Mike Higgins   mike@everexn.com

deano@areyes.com (Dean Carpenter) (06/27/91)

gozer!klm@uunet.UU.NET (Kevin L. McBride) writes:

#A great alternative is aluminum soft drink cans and beer cans (as long
#as you didn't remove the contents immediately prior to shooting)
#filled with water.

  One of my favorites was 2 or 3 litre plastic bottles, or the big gallon
plastic water bottles, filled with water.  Wrap a gallon bottle with duct
tape or something like that to strengthen it - wrap it well, everywhere
except the bottom.  Make sure it's sitting on a flat surface.  Hit it with
a hollow point.  The expended energy ruptures the bottom of the bottle
as the tape keeps the integrity of the sides and top, making it fly *way*
up in the air.  Can be pretty spectacular and fun :)

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pfeiffer@NMSU.Edu (06/29/91)

<35817@mimsy.umd.edu> gozer!klm@uunet.UU.NET (Kevin L. McBride) writes:

#Fill the can with water and use hollow points.  The hollow point
#starts expanding in the water and dissipates a significant amount of
#energy.  The resulting explosion of the can and the spray of water is
#just as dramatic as glass, if not more so, and you only have to pick

Doing this with a 2 liter Coke bottle makes for a good demonstration.
Take your .223 out and try this with FMJ; you will find a neat little
hole in one side and the seam blown out.  It's very unimpressive.  Now
take that same weapon and put in soft-points:  BOOM!

-Joe.