[comp.multimedia] Authoring Systems for Amiga

salter@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John E Salter) (06/24/91)

I am interested in developing Interactive Multimedia systems
by using an authoring system. Is there a product like Hypercard
or Authorware for the Amiga?  It needs to be able to have complete
control of the graphics, video and audio.  Hopefully, a non-programmer
can develop a system using it.

<AUBRI@ASUACAD.BITNET> (06/24/91)

There are several authoring systems available for the Amiga.

    AmigaVision: Icon-based object oriented authoring.
                 No scripting.
                 Good for presentations.
         Can-Do: Button/Script-based authoring.
                 Actually creates complete run-time applications.
      HyperBook: Hyper-card like creation of "pages" assembled into a "book".
                 Has full AREXX port for unlimited scripting.
      ShowMaker: THE system for multimedia presentations. Complete control
                 over audio sync, video transitions (VideoToaster), and more.
     Foundation: Soon to be released...
                 Product demo looks very promising.
                 Said to work like HyperCard.
                 *Imports HyperCard stacks!!* (Add Amiga gfx/sound to stacks!)

Each authoring system has strengths and weaknesses. It all depends on your
priorities. Personally, I'm excited about the possibility of importing
HyperCard stacks into the Amiga for the addition of 4096 colors, animation, and
digital stereo sound! We have many many stacks here at ASU screaming for these
types of enhancements.

Feel free to ask any other questions!
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matija@amiga.ifi.unizh.ch (Matija Milostnik) (06/24/91)

In article <1991Jun24.004403.13909@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> salter@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John E Salter) writes:
>I am interested in developing Interactive Multimedia systems
>by using an authoring system. Is there a product like Hypercard
>or Authorware for the Amiga?  It needs to be able to have complete
>control of the graphics, video and audio.  Hopefully, a non-programmer
>can develop a system using it.

Yes there are many Multimedia capable programms for the amiga.
The official one is AmigaVison, an authoring system that commes with
every new Amiga (like Hypercard on the mac).
Here a brief collection of programms and the date of first release:
 The Director (1986)
 Elan Performer, Deluxe Video (1987)
 Ultracard (1988)
 CanDo, Deluxe Video II (1989)
 AmigaVision (CBM), Hyperbook, Scala, Showmaker (1990)
 MediaShow (19991)
(Compiled by M.Blatter) 

Bye
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arctngnt@amiganet.chi.il.us (Bowie J Poag) (06/26/91)

Yes, there are more than a few presentation packages out for the Amiga that
handle similarly to Hypercard and Authorware.  For one, CanDo is a good
package, well updated, and easy to use.

AmigaVision is also a good package, that will basically do anything you want
it to do, everything from simple slideshows that you can whip together with
different wipes and transitions.. Something like that will take you 3 minutes
to prepare. AmigaVision chops the workload down into a series of icons you can
connect in a flowchart type fashion. Has full support for all graphics modes,
sound formats, even animation formats.It also allows user-definable hotspots
on your graphics, laserdisk/cd control. A very VERY smooth package.

Though im not a veteran user of AmigaVision, I was, nevertheless, able to
throw together a a slideshow of 15 or so pictures..Took me all of 5 minutes of
point-and-click to set up the program flow and set the whole presentation into
action.

It has way too many options for me to go into here, so I siuggest you either
ask around about it, or pick up a copy. its a multimedia must.

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arctngnt@amiganet.chi.il.us (Bowie J Poag) (06/26/91)

Elan Peformer is a good package, too. a bit too flimsy.

Give me a good-sized program like Amigavision that is so complex as to include
options youll almost never use, but feel good knowing its there just incase.


A 9 year old could use AmigaVision, and a corporation could use it. Your
presentations are only as complex as you want them to be.

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tcapener@watserv1.waterloo.edu (CAPENER TD - ENGLISH ) (06/26/91)

In article <91175.075746AUBRI@ASUACAD.BITNET>, <AUBRI@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
> There are several authoring systems available for the Amiga.

[original author's observations deleted]

AmigaVision
     (IMHO) not designed with text-based applications in mind at all.

CanDo
     (IMHO) potentially very powerful but has too many bugs to be reliable in
     serious applications (v. 1.2--I've been waiting for v. 1.5 for months now)

HyperBook
     (IMHO) the best of the lot so far.  Still leaves a lot to be desired.
     It seems to me the creators of Hyperbook wanted to do a HyperCard but
     didn't quite grasp exactly what made HyperCard such a good program.  The
     program nicely overcomes many of HyperCard's weaknesses, but lacks almost
     all of HyperCard's strengths (that it blurs the line between programmer
     and end user, its power to import and export, and the control it gives
     over the operating system).

>      Foundation: Soon to be released...
>                  Product demo looks very promising.
>                  Said to work like HyperCard.
>                  *Imports HyperCard stacks!!* (Add Amiga gfx/sound to stacks!)
> 
> Feel free to ask any other questions!
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Foundation sounds like it could be what I'm looking for too (obviously
HyperCard on the Amiga).  Who is making it and how soon is soon?

Travis Capener

don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd) (06/26/91)

In article <1991Jun26.011946.216@watserv1.waterloo.edu> tcapener@watserv1.waterloo.edu (CAPENER TD - ENGLISH ) writes:
>CanDo
>     (IMHO) potentially very powerful but has too many bugs to be reliable in
>     serious applications (v. 1.2--I've been waiting for v. 1.5 for months now)

	 Have you sent in the form that came with 1.2 to get your upgrade?  I sent
mine in about 2 months ago and had 1.5 within  two weeks!
	 What bugs?  I never used 1.2 too extensively, but I never noticed any major
bugs in it... certainly it has limitations in certain areas; everything does;
but I've found it (esp. v 1.5) to be very powerful (although I'm not really
doing multimedia work with it... creating utilities, mostly).

>>      Foundation: Soon to be released...
>>                  Product demo looks very promising.
>>                  Said to work like HyperCard.
>>                  *Imports HyperCard stacks!!* (Add Amiga gfx/sound to stacks!)
>Foundation sounds like it could be what I'm looking for too (obviously
>HyperCard on the Amiga).  Who is making it and how soon is soon?
>

     According to the Summer AC's guide, it's published by Impulse & programmed
by Intuitive Tech... i.e. the UltraCard people.  UltraCard was trash and I. Tech
has a rather poor reputation, so I wouldn't go rushing out to buy Foundation
right away.  Of course, if Impulse is publishing it, it might be decent after
all.
	 I won't rewrite the entire entry from the Guide, but Impulse's address is:
	 Impulse, Inc.
     6870 Shingle Creek Parkway #112
	 Minneapolis, MN 55430
     (612)566-0221

	 Foundation lists for $250.


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tcapener@watserv1.waterloo.edu (CAPENER TD - ENGLISH ) (06/26/91)

In article <17321@chopin.udel.edu>, don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd) writes:
> In article <1991Jun26.011946.216@watserv1.waterloo.edu> tcapener@watserv1.waterloo.edu (CAPENER TD - ENGLISH ) writes:
> >CanDo
> >     (IMHO) potentially very powerful but has too many bugs to be reliable in
> >     serious applications (v. 1.2--I've been waiting for v. 1.5 for months now)
> 
> 	 Have you sent in the form that came with 1.2 to get your upgrade?  I sent
> mine in about 2 months ago and had 1.5 within  two weeks!
> 	 What bugs?  I never used 1.2 too extensively, but I never noticed any major
> bugs in it... certainly it has limitations in certain areas; everything does;
> but I've found it (esp. v 1.5) to be very powerful (although I'm not really
> doing multimedia work with it... creating utilities, mostly).
> 
> -- 
>   Gibberish   May the        Publications Editor, AmigaNetwork 
>   is spoken   fork() be      Amiga Student On-Campus Consultant, U of D
>     here.     with you.      DISCLAIMER:  It's all YOUR fault.

I sent in my money for CanDo 1.5 before Christmas and haven't yet received
my copy.  I call Innovatronics about once a month to see what's going on
and have followed the 1.5 progress from debugging to having the manuals printed
to waiting patiently in line for my copy.

I get the impression no one used 1.2 extensively.  I get about half-an-hour
of work from the program before it gurus.  It seems proportional to the number
of requesters I call up (while using the editors, and so on...)  CanDo is a
nice concept, but I hope v1.5 is a lot more stable.  And they can lose the
clunky interface, too.  It's cute, but after about half-an-hour it just
continually got in my way (and still does).  If they have to have all the
tools on a separate screen, they out to make it a single bit-plane (or at
least make a single bit-plane optional).

Travis Capener

jet@navier.math.uh.edu (J Eric Townsend) (06/28/91)

In article <arctngnt.0387@amiganet.chi.il.us> arctngnt@amiganet.chi.il.us (Bowie J Poag) writes:
>AmigaVision is also a good package, that will basically do anything you want
[...]
>.It also allows user-definable hotspots
>on your graphics, laserdisk/cd control. A very VERY smooth package.

These are *very* nice.   One of the demos is a map of the USA with
the state borders.  You can click on a state and it'll tell you
the capital (whooptie-do).  You could just as easily have it show
a tourist promo from laser disk.

After playing with the code, I realized that it's just a matter of
resolution.  A click on "Texas" could go to a map of Texas with all
the major cities and such.  A click on "Houston" would go to a city
map of Houston, and so on and so on.  Sound would go just as well.

Really a nice product, and free when you buy an Amiga.


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