danf@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dante Fabrizio) (01/23/91)
Is anyone using Model Technologies VHDL compilers/simulators. There are 2 avialable. V-Systems/PC for DOS based systems and V-Systems/Windows which runs in Windows 3.0. Can these be used simulate something on the level of 386 microprocessor based system. All recommendations/advice welcome. Thanks Dante Fabrizio Commodore Business Machines -- __ __ |__) (__` | \ick ,__)terling ----------------------------------------------- Test Engineering Commodore Technology Group (215)-431-9275 UUCP ...{uunet,allegra,rutgers}!cbmvax!sterling
dettmer@jupiter.uucp (Thomas Dettmer) (01/24/91)
In article <17923@cbmvax.commodore.com> danf@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dante Fabrizio) writes: >Is anyone using Model Technologies VHDL compilers/simulators. >There are 2 avialable. V-Systems/PC for DOS based systems and >V-Systems/Windows which runs in Windows 3.0. We are actually starting to use the first one. I would be very astonished, if the second one is available - we wanted to get this stuff but Model Technologies did send us the non-windows version until the other one is ready. > >Can these be used simulate something on the level of 386 >microprocessor based system. Depends hardly on the level of description, I think. If I remember correctly, Model T... says, models up to 10.000 lines (but depending on the model -generate statements will reduce this number for example-) of source code will run. tom. dettmer@jupiter.ls1.informatik.uni-dortmund.de phone: +49-231 755 4825, FAX: +49-231 755 2386 Thomas Dettmer, Dortmund University, Computer Science I Post Box 50 05 00, W-4600 Dortmund 50, Germany
doran@cbnewsk.att.com (robert.l.doran) (01/26/91)
In article <17923@cbmvax.commodore.com> danf@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dante Fabrizio) writes: >Is anyone using Model Technologies VHDL compilers/simulators. >There are 2 avialable. V-Systems/PC for DOS based systems and >V-Systems/Windows which runs in Windows 3.0. > We recently purchased the V-System/PC compiler. I don't think the windows version is available yet. > >Can these be used simulate something on the level of 386 >microprocessor based system. From the Technical Description from Model Technology: "System Capacity Depending on the code, you can expect at least 1000 lines before the 640K PC memory limit is reached. If the whole design is modeled at the structural level, designs of around 300 gates are possible." So if you plan on simulating the 386 at the gate level, you probably will run out of memory. :-) (The Windows version will not have the 640 K limit) > >All recommendations/advice welcome. I really didn't spend enough time with the system to get a good feeling about all its capabilities. The system is not 100% VHDL compatible; some code that I have been using with the Intermetrics VHDL system would not work on the PC. In a few weeks, I may be able to tell you more. Bob Doran