Scott_Busse@mindlink.UUCP (Scott Busse) (04/14/91)
>> Peter James Bowmar writes: "About the only thing I can't do on >> Imagine that I can on Lightwave is use a picture as a backdrop... From what I gather from the Computer Graphics World article, Lightwave is capable of soft edge shadows, and fractalized texturing, both of which Imagine cannot do... * Scott Busse email: O O O_ _ ___ ..... * CIS 73040,2114 ||| /|\ /\ O/\_ / O )=| * a763@mindlink.UUCP l | | |\ / \ /\ _\ * uunet!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!Scott_Busse Live Long and Animate... \
ACPS1072@RYERSON <ACPS1072@Ryerson.CA> (04/18/91)
I would also like to point out Lightwave seems a heck of a lot more user friendly than Imagine... except for the fact it needs the toaster to run. Derek Lang<<<<< | ACPS1072@Ryerson | "Get this clown trained. I want him in the games Toronto, ON | until he dies playing. Acknowledge." Canada | - Master Control Program
ridout@uservx.afwl.af.mil (04/19/91)
In article <91107.220849ACPS1072@Ryerson.CA>, ACPS1072@Ryerson.CA (ACPS1072@RYERSON) writes: > > I would also like to point out Lightwave seems a heck of a lot more user > friendly than Imagine... except for the fact it needs the toaster to run. > > Derek Lang<<<<< | > ACPS1072@Ryerson | "Get this clown trained. I want him in the games > Toronto, ON | until he dies playing. Acknowledge." > Canada | - Master Control Program Why do people insist on compairing a $1600 hardware/software package with a $300 dollar Strictly software package?:-) I think if I could afford the Toster I would own both. I am sure they both have strong enough points that they would be valuable. If I got the prices wrong sorry but you get my point. Besides compaired to Turbo silver, Imagine is the most friendly s/w ever invented :-) I own that one too BTW. -- | Brian Ridout What's the difference between a CAR | | PL/SCEV salesman and a COMPUTER salesman? | | Kirtland AFB NM 87117 *** | | ridout@uservx.afwl.af.mil The CAR salesman KNOWS when he's lying! |
Scott_Busse@mindlink.bc.ca (Scott Busse) (04/20/91)
Bobl@graphics.rent.com writes: >> I can't see the reason why the Firecracker costs so much. I guess I may be the one to let the cat out of the bag. The Firecracker is now selling for US$ 999.00, directly from Impulse. I got some mail from the VistaPro people saying they had made an agreement with Impulse to get $999.00 boards (2 megs, BTW) for VistaPro customers. A call to Mike Halvorson confirmed this. He didn't say if this was a forever price, but if he sells a ton of 'em, maybe it will make it a viable marketing approach for him. In light of the competition for Firecracker, it certainly makes sense though... Call Impulse if you're intersested, and let us know what you hear! -- * Scott Busse email: O O O_ _ ___ ..... * CIS 73040,2114 ||| /|\ /\ O/\_ / O )=| * scott_busse@mindlink.UUCP l | | |\ / \ /\ _\ * scott_busse@mindlink.bc.ca Live Long and Animate... \
ben@epmooch.UUCP (Rev. Ben A. Mesander) (04/20/91)
>In article <1991Apr20.192108.31498@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu> drtiller@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Donald Richard Tillery Jr) writes: [...] >Let's all write NewTek a letter asking them to release it separately. > >Their address is: > >Mark Randall - Director of Marketing or Tim Jenison - President > >NewTek Inc. >215 SE 8th St. >Topeka, KS 66603 > > >I for one am penning it now. Please help me if you too want LightWave without >the Toaster. Urk! Didn't your last letter writing campaign end in the president of the company posting a note to this newsgroup asking you not very politely to fork() off? Your little letter-writing campaigns tend to annoy people. What are you trying to do, get on the "Fight Back" TV show list of honor? >Rick Tillery (drtiller@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu) -- | ben@epmooch.UUCP (Ben Mesander) | "Cash is more important than | | ben%servalan.UUCP@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu | your mother." - Al Shugart, | | !chinet!uokmax!servalan!epmooch!ben | CEO, Seagate Technologies |
bobl@graphics.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdm) (04/20/91)
ridout@uservx.afwl.af.mil writes: > Why do people insist on compairing a $1600 hardware/software package with a > $300 dollar Strictly software package?:-) I think if I could afford the Tost > I would own both. I am sure they both have strong enough points that they > would be valuable. If I got the prices wrong sorry but you get my point. > Besides compaired to Turbo silver, Imagine is the most friendly s/w ever > invented :-) I own that one too BTW. The reason is because they are Apples and Apples. They basically do the exact same thing and are comparable. If you want, you can just add the Firecracker to Imagine and compare that way. How's that sound? <grin> For the money, you are *better off* with Lightwave and the Toaster if your main output is going to be to video anyway. Also, you can just compare the software independantly of the output boards. Even though Lightwave requires the Toaster, the software itself is comparable to Imagine...well, not really. B^) I can't see the reason why the Firecracker costs so much. I can purchase a Targa + for about the same price as the Firecracker and the TARGA + will do one hell of alot more than the Firecracker will! -- Bob The Graphics BBS 908/469-0049 "It's better than a sharp stick in the eye!" ============================================================================ InterNet: bobl@graphics.rent.com | Raven Enterprises UUCP: ...rutgers!bobsbox!graphics!bobl | 25 Raven Avenue BitNet: bobl%graphics.rent.com@pucc | Piscataway, NJ 08854 Home #: 908/560-7353 | 908/271-8878
drtiller@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Donald Richard Tillery Jr) (04/21/91)
In a message from Brian Ridout: >Why do people insist on compairing a $1600 hardware/software package with a >$300 dollar Strictly software package?:-) I think if I could afford the Toster According to some rather knowledgable sources, LightWave DOES NOT use any of the features of the Toaster in doing its rendering. It only uses it, literally, as a $1500 dongle. It IS a piece of software, and would be perfectly useful without the Toaster (as I wish it were sold). I can't afford the Toaster, but I do want LightWave. I will have a 24 bit board in the near future (but not a $1500 one) and I want LightWave to create pics for it. Imagine is nice, but LW has many qualities which make it better in ways than Imagine. I think both would complement each other (as Mark Thompson can attest) and I would like to have them both. Let's all write NewTek a letter asking them to release it separately. Their address is: Mark Randall - Director of Marketing or Tim Jenison - President NewTek Inc. 215 SE 8th St. Topeka, KS 66603 I for one am penning it now. Please help me if you too want LightWave without the Toaster. DON'T GET ME WRONG: The Toaster is an AWESOME product at an even better price. It's just that even if I could afford the $1500 toaster, I can't afford to fill all those empty plugs on the back (something I would not be able to keep myself from doing - I just HATE empty plugs - just check out my stereo) with a $1000 camcorder, a couple of $600 stereo/flying erase head VCRs, a $2000 time base corrector, and at least 2 $300 monitors (I have a 1950 which wouldn't work with the Toaster). I can however afford a reasonable price for LightWave and a less expensive (and less plug equipped) 24 bit board. If you feel the same, please write to the above address. Rick Tillery (drtiller@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu)
drtiller@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Donald Richard Tillery Jr) (04/22/91)
In a message From: ben@epmooch.UUCP (Rev. Ben A. Mesander) >>In article <1991Apr20.192108.31498@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu> drtiller@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Donald Richard Tillery Jr) writes: >[...] >>Let's all write NewTek a letter asking them to release it separately. >> >>Their address is: >> >>Mark Randall - Director of Marketing or Tim Jenison - President >> >>NewTek Inc. >>215 SE 8th St. >>Topeka, KS 66603 >> >> >>I for one am penning it now. Please help me if you too want LightWave without >>the Toaster. > >Urk! Didn't your last letter writing campaign end in the president of the >company posting a note to this newsgroup asking you not very politely to >fork() off? Pardon? I did indeed ask for some other people to write to NewTek, but I didn't post the address or get any response here on the net. I did get a polite letter from Kiki Stockhammer repeating what I wrote to her: that NewTek had no plans for a stand-alone version. I knew that, that is why I was writing, to ask them to. >Your little letter-writing campaigns tend to annoy people. What are you ^? I've never asked anyone to write to anyone before. Are you confusing me with someone else? >trying to do, get on the "Fight Back" TV show list of honor? Maybe :-) Rick Tillery (drtiller@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu)
steved@DIALix.oz.au (Steve Doherty) (04/23/91)
I'm interested in buying Imagine in the near future, and I know that version 1.1 has just been released. Is there an upgrade to the manual in the works? I've heard from other Imagine users that the manual is not the best. From what I've seen of Imagine it is far more intuitive than Sculpt but I'd like to be sure of a decent manual with examples and tutorials before taking the plunge. Has anyone got any comments? What about "Imagine Companion"? Steve,