[comp.sys.amiga.graphics] Red Sector Demomaker

muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au (Murray Chapman) (04/26/91)

Hi there

About a month ago I downloaded the Red Sector Demomaker, and I have since
got it to work... I tell you, it makes VERY nice demos.

I am thinking of hacking the program to convert the strings, etc to English....
if there is enough interest.

Well??? Speak up now or learn some French!!!

( I have never been taugh French, but I found most of the menu items
intuitive)

Considering making a doc file too...


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guy@ns.network.com (Guy D'Andrea) (04/26/91)

In article <1004@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>Hi there
>
>About a month ago I downloaded the Red Sector Demomaker, and I have since
>got it to work... I tell you, it makes VERY nice demos.
>
>I am thinking of hacking the program to convert the strings, etc to English....
>if there is enough interest.
>
>Well??? Speak up now or learn some French!!!
>
>( I have never been taugh French, but I found most of the menu items
>intuitive)
>
>Considering making a doc file too...
>
>
>+^o^+^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-+-o-+
>|   | Murray Chapman                          muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au       |   |
>| o |                                                                  | o |
>|   | University of Queensland      "I'd rather have a bottle in front |   |
>| o | St Lucia, Queenland            of me than a frontal lobotomy"    | o |
>|   | AUSTRALIA                               - Mel Brooks             |   |
>| o |                                                                  | o |
>+^-^+^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-------------+---+
>                                                          \__          | o |
>                                        Hate that! ----->    +^-^-^-^-^-^-^-

YES! Please convert it... and then... Where is it?  FTP site?  ;-)


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set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) (04/26/91)

I would really like to have any english version of Demomaker.

One vote for me...


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jlehmann@wpi.WPI.EDU (Jonas A. Lehmann) (04/26/91)

In article <1004@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>Hi there
>
>About a month ago I downloaded the Red Sector Demomaker, and I have since
>got it to work... I tell you, it makes VERY nice demos.
>
>I am thinking of hacking the program to convert the strings, etc to English....
>if there is enough interest.
>
>Well??? Speak up now or learn some French!!!
>
>( I have never been taugh French, but I found most of the menu items
>intuitive)
>
>Considering making a doc file too...
>
>
>+^o^+^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-+-o-+
>|   | Murray Chapman                          muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au       |   |
>| o |                                                                  | o |
>|   | University of Queensland      "I'd rather have a bottle in front |   |
>| o | St Lucia, Queenland            of me than a frontal lobotomy"    | o |
>|   | AUSTRALIA                               - Mel Brooks             |   |
>| o |                                                                  | o |
>+^-^+^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-------------+---+
>                                                          \__          | o |
>                                        Hate that! ----->    +^-^-^-^-^-^-^-


This DEMOMAKER by RSI is a demo version?! While back in Switzerland this
christmas, I saw adds for the final version and it was commercial ... 
marketted by Data Becker (as far as I know)! Check that.

Jonas

al158305@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Gustavo Cordova Avila) (04/27/91)

Yeah!!! please translate at least the most basic stuff...
maybe in a doc file, the gadgets at least can be used
by reference...

Gustavo
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wright@etsuv2.etsu.edu (BRIAN WRIGHT) (04/27/91)

In article <1991Apr26.120933.21940@ns.network.com>, guy@ns.network.com (Guy D'Andrea) writes...
>In article <1004@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>>Hi there
>>
>>About a month ago I downloaded the Red Sector Demomaker, and I have since
>>got it to work... I tell you, it makes VERY nice demos.
>>
>>I am thinking of hacking the program to convert the strings, etc to English....
>>if there is enough interest.
>>
>>Well??? Speak up now or learn some French!!!
>>
>>( I have never been taugh French, but I found most of the menu items
>>intuitive)
>>
>>Considering making a doc file too...
>>
>>
>>|   | Murray Chapman                          muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au       |   |
> 
>YES! Please convert it... and then... Where is it?  FTP site?  ;-)
> 
> 
>-- 
> Guy Dandrea, Network Systems Corp.                       //                 
> guy@nsco.network.com #129.191.1.1                    \\ //                  

I have heard rumors of an English version being available already.  If anyone 
can get and can post a REAL English version please do.  

FYI, RSDM is for PAL machines only, sorry to say.  I could not get it working
on my NTSC A1000.  If there *IS* a version that works on an NTSC machine
I'd love to have it.  It does work on an A3000, but only with a blank system
all except for a CLI (In PAL of course--kinda limits background multitasking).


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wright%etsuvax2@ricevm1.rice.edu   or   wright@etsuvax2.bitnet
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kskelm@happy.colorado.edu (04/27/91)

In article <1004@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>, muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au (Murray Chapman) writes:
> I am thinking of hacking the program to convert the strings, etc to English....
> if there is enough interest.
> 
> Well??? Speak up now or learn some French!!!
> 
> ( I have never been taugh French, but I found most of the menu items
> intuitive)
> 
> Considering making a doc file too...
> 

   Yes, PLEASE on both counts!!!!!! Like you, I got the DemoMaker, and I
managed to many SOME sense of it, but nothing like someone who KNOWS French!
 
 
    Count this as 3 YES votes (two friends behind me).

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|     ///  kskelm@happy.colorado.edu                         |
| \\\/// "Reality is subjective-- if you can make your own,  |
|  \XX/ then who's crazy? That's entertainment software!"-me |
| C code run.  Run, code, run--PLEASE!                       |
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jkh@MEEPMEEP.PCS.COM (Jordan K. Hubbard) (04/29/91)

I already have a version translated to English (the French version
actually came as a surprise).

Though I have to say that I still can't get the sample demo (I think
it's called "firstdemo" or something) to work, I've tried giving
it as an argument at startup and I can't see to find a way of loading
it anyway.

I guess I could download the english version, but it seems sort of a waste
to have two copies on there. Why not just read the french prompts?
It's not like there's a lot of them to translate and memorize. One
evening with a french dictionary and you should be in business..

				Jordan

set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) (04/30/91)

I would like the english version. Please.  The french version is in Pal
and I just can't seem to get it to work! :-)

Please Email set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu

cai (Scott Fleming) (05/03/91)

In article <1991Apr26.120933.21940@ns.network.com> guy@ns.network.com (Guy D'Andrea) writes:
>In article <1004@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>>Hi there
>>
>>About a month ago I downloaded the Red Sector Demomaker, and I have since
>>got it to work... I tell you, it makes VERY nice demos.
>>I am thinking of hacking the program to convert the strings, etc to English...
>>if there is enough interest.
>>Well??? Speak up now or learn some French!!!
>>+^o^+^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-+-o-+
>>|   | Murray Chapman                          muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au       |   |
>>| o |                                                                  | o |
>>|   | University of Queensland      "I'd rather have a bottle in front |   |
>>| o | St Lucia, Queenland            of me than a frontal lobotomy"    | o |
>>|   | AUSTRALIA                               - Mel Brooks             |   |
>>| o |                                                                  | o |
>>+^-^+^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-------------+---+
>>                                                          \__          | o |
>>                                        Hate that! ----->    +^-^-^-^-^-^-^-

Sure, go ahead.  My only question is, "How did you make it work?"
I have yet been able to make it work, all I get is some source
but never been able to "do" anything but scroll through it.
 Care to mail me a copy of your?  
 **********************************
 Scott Fleming
 Bix:sfleming
 These are my own opinions even if they are right!
 "In the darkness, I have seen the light of dreams"

amorsin@cs.vu.nl (A.W.Morsink) (05/03/91)

OK, I am sorry to say that the Red Sector Demo Maker is a commercial product
and that the version that was in ab20 is a pirated product. the RSDM is mar-
keted by Data Becker, Merowingerstrasse 30, 4000 Duesseldorf, United Germany.

I don't know who uploaded it, but these kind of mistakes may happen with
products that seem to be marketed only in Europe (maybe it's PAL-only?).
However, you should erase it if you have it.

Note: the group Red Sector is still in the pirating business themselves, they
have ganged up with a group called "Tristar" and are releasing other people's
work. But this is no reason to become a pirate yourself by using the RDSM.

For those people who are still thinking about buying a legit copy (for example
thru a European mail-order company [the dollar went up the last months so this
is the time]): Data Becker also has a "Erweiterungsset", call it the enhancer
package, with new fonts, logos, objects, bobs, and sounds (DM 29,-).

In the PD sector, I remember seeing an object editor for the RSDM. I don't
have the RSDM, so I didn't try to get it.

For those who don't believe this, check for example the ad on pp. 204-205 in
the German M&T AMIGA Magazin, issue 5/91. You can also have a look at other
Data Becker ads in recent German magazines (maybe English ones, too - I don't
know).

I already mailed Tad Guy about it and he removed the file from ab20.

Greetings,
Marco Niese
(Using: amorsin@cs.vu.nl)

set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) (05/04/91)

In article <1991May2.191724.23554@uunet!cai> scottf@cai.UUCP (Scott Fleming) writes:
>In article <1991Apr26.120933.21940@ns.network.com> guy@ns.network.com (Guy D'Andrea) writes:
>>In article <1004@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>>>Hi there
>>>
>>>About a month ago I downloaded the Red Sector Demomaker, and I have since
>>>got it to work... I tell you, it makes VERY nice demos.
>>>I am thinking of hacking the program to convert the strings, etc to English...
>>>if there is enough interest.
>>>Well??? Speak up now or learn some French!!!
>>>+^o^+^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-+-o-+
>>>|   | Murray Chapman                          muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au       |   |
>>>| o |                                                                  | o |
>>>|   | University of Queensland      "I'd rather have a bottle in front |   |
>>>| o | St Lucia, Queenland            of me than a frontal lobotomy"    | o |
>>>|   | AUSTRALIA                               - Mel Brooks             |   |
>>>| o |                                                                  | o |
>>>+^-^+^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-------------+---+
>>>                                                          \__          | o |
>>>                                        Hate that! ----->    +^-^-^-^-^-^-^-
>
>Sure, go ahead.  My only question is, "How did you make it work?"
>I have yet been able to make it work, all I get is some source
>but never been able to "do" anything but scroll through it.
> Care to mail me a copy of your?  
> **********************************
> Scott Fleming
> Bix:sfleming
> These are my own opinions even if they are right!
> "In the darkness, I have seen the light of dreams"


I have had the same prob.  What I think it is it has to be run in PAL
mode....  If anyone has a version that doesn't use the PAL mode
please send me a copy...


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ez001989@pollux (05/06/91)

	I've been reading the discussion about the Red Sector demomaker
and I was wondering what it was?  I mean I know it makes demos, but how
and what type?  Do they look decent?  
	Too bad this demomaker on ab20 wasn't legit.

-Joseph R. Castillo
ez001989@pollux.ucdavis.edu

muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au (Murray Chapman) (05/06/91)

In <12865@aggie.ucdavis.edu> ez001989@pollux writes:


>	I've been reading the discussion about the Red Sector demomaker
>and I was wondering what it was?  I mean I know it makes demos, but how
>and what type?  Do they look decent?  

The RSDM made some very smart demos indeed.  You could incorporate the
following features:

	Vector Stars
	Filled Vector Objects
	Sinus Scroll Texts
	Vector Ball objects
	Plasma Effects
	Zoom text
	IFF fonts/pictures
	User-definable copperlists, textscreens, etc
	Line/lissajous figures and the like
	...and lots more!!

>	Too bad this demomaker on ab20 wasn't legit.


Yeah- but what about the "demo demo" that came on the disk??? Is that
legal?????? Did anyone keep a copy of it????

>-Joseph R. Castillo
>ez001989@pollux.ucdavis.edu


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|   | Murray Chapman                          muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au       |   |
| o |                                                                  | o |
|   | University of Queensland      "I'd rather have a bottle in front |   |
| o | St Lucia, Queenland            of me than a frontal lobotomy"    | o |
|   | AUSTRALIA                               - Mel Brooks             |   |
| o |                                                                  | o |
+^-^+^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-------------+---+
                                                          \__          | o |
                                        Hate that! ----->    +^-^-^-^-^-^-^-