bard@jessica.stanford.edu (David Hopper) (05/28/91)
In article <1991May27.221214.19100@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes: > > I hate to put this so bluntly, but without externally >hardware, Intuition can't DO VGA graphics. Period. Try getting >256 simultaneous colors without using HAM, which cannot be used >for the WB screen anyway. Well, whatever. I hate to be blunt with YOU, Ethan, but you should know better. I'm running a 4096-color workbench as we speak. Now, it's only sixty columns, but it's there, and it's rather pretty, thankyouverymuch. Dave Hopper | /// Anthro Creep | Academic Info Resources, Stanford |__ /// . . | and NeXT Campus Consultant bard@jessica. |\\\/// Ia! Ia! | -- Just remember: love is life, and Stanford.EDU | \XX/ Shub-Niggurath! | hate is living death. :Black Sabbath
es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) (05/28/91)
In article <1991May28.003206.21596@leland.Stanford.EDU> bard@jessica.stanford.edu (David Hopper) writes: >In article <1991May27.221214.19100@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes: >> >> I hate to put this so bluntly, but without externally >>hardware, Intuition can't DO VGA graphics. Period. Try getting >>256 simultaneous colors without using HAM, which cannot be used >>for the WB screen anyway. > >Well, whatever. I hate to be blunt with YOU, Ethan, but you should know >better. I'm running a 4096-color workbench as we speak. Now, it's only >sixty columns, but it's there, and it's rather pretty, thankyouverymuch. > There is a PD program (Jazzbench is it?) that does it. I should've prefaced it with Commodore-supported way of making WB into HAM. There are PD hacks that do do it. I've heard mixed things about stability, but I admit that I've never used them myself and since you do use it I guess it can't be all that bad. 8-) Realistically, though, to use more than 16 colors in standard HAM mode without serious fringing requires too many computations to be, IMHO, a realistic alternative. Especially since we are talking about a bridgeboard. IBMs don't expect to have to deal with this, they'll just be writing out bytes. Somewhere that'll have to be intercepted and converted. HW: not cheap. SW: slow. I'm not saying it's impossible. DigiPaint was considered impossible before its like was done. I'm just very doubtful. >Dave Hopper | /// Anthro Creep | Academic Info Resources, Stanford > |__ /// . . | and NeXT Campus Consultant >bard@jessica. |\\\/// Ia! Ia! | -- Just remember: love is life, and > Stanford.EDU | \XX/ Shub-Niggurath! | hate is living death. :Black Sabbath Now the world has gone to bed, Now I lay me down to sleep, Darkness won't engulf my head, Try to count electric sheep, I can see by infrared, Sweet dream wishes you can keep, How I hate the night. How I hate the night. -- Marvin
taab5@isuvax.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) (05/29/91)
In article <1991May28.003206.21596@leland.Stanford.EDU>, bard@jessica.stanford.edu (David Hopper) writes: >In article <1991May27.221214.19100@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes: >> >> I hate to put this so bluntly, but without externally >>hardware, Intuition can't DO VGA graphics. Period. Try getting >>256 simultaneous colors without using HAM, which cannot be used >>for the WB screen anyway. > >Well, whatever. I hate to be blunt with YOU, Ethan, but you should know >better. I'm running a 4096-color workbench as we speak. Now, it's only >sixty columns, but it's there, and it's rather pretty, thankyouverymuch. You are probably using HamBench, which gives you a 320x200 or 320x400 HAM-mode WorkBench. Workbench in this modes does look pretty good, but you have to construct your own icons because the aspect ratio for the 320x400 mode is totally the opposite of the normal Workbench mode (640x200), and because there are few ready-to-use HAM-mode icons available except the ones included with HamBench. I find it better to simply use the 640x400 16-color mode, because you get a higher resolution in this mode, with none of the fringing associated with HAM mode. > >Dave Hopper | /// Anthro Creep | Academic Info Resources, Stanford > |__ /// . . | and NeXT Campus Consultant >bard@jessica. |\\\/// Ia! Ia! | -- Just remember: love is life, and > Stanford.EDU | \XX/ Shub-Niggurath! | hate is living death. :Black Sabbath ------------------------------------------------------------- / Marc Barrett -MB- | BITNET: XGR39@ISUVAX.BITNET / / ISU COM S Student | Internet: XGR39@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU / ------------------------------------------------------------ \ ISU : The Home of the Goon / \ Who wants to Blow Up the Moon / -------------------------------------------------------
cs_b152@ux.kingston.ac.uk (Vlod Kalicum) (06/03/91)
Any ideas where you can get Hambench ?? Ive scaned the fish collection but cant seem to find any mention of it?? Vlod.. cs_b152@ux.king.ac.uk
navas@cory.Berkeley.EDU (David C. Navas) (06/08/91)
In article <1991May28.014934.20917@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes: > There is a PD program (Jazzbench is it?) that does it. I You rang? :) Jazzbench does not support HAM. Its author (that's me :)) prefers what Dave Haynie describes as <<weird>> gfx modes like monochrome prod-interlaced... It also crashes under 2.0 *real* bad. I know why, but the source is gone. :( Too bad, because it's much faster than 2.0 workbench :(, and has real-time scrollbars. I'd still like to shoot somebody for not giving me those under 2.0. I'll be glad to assist anyone with a file-zapper to try and get wbsetup working under 2.0 -- give me a buzz. David Navas navas@cory.berkeley.edu 2.0 :: "You can't have your cake and eat it too." Also try c186br@holden, c260-ay@ara and c184-ap@torus