bobl@graphics.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdm) (06/08/91)
cowgilc@prism.cs.orst.edu (Clayton Cowgill) writes: > Hi folks, > > Well, I just picked up my DCTV and it's pretty nice. I was kicking > around the idea of converting a couple hundred meg of adult gifs to > DCTV's 'display' file format. Being that there is a bit of processing > (image cleanup mostly) involved on each picture (plus a new harddrive > to store everything- ack! ;-) I was toying with the idea of making them > available cheap in a PD Disk catalog. I'm thinking inexpensive for > prices- (Maybe $1-$1.50 per disk? 5-6 images?). > > So... would anyone be interested in such a catalog? > > No flames on the content of this message, please. This isn't > a commercial venture-- I just want to cover my costs and time and > make the pics available some way other than the 'net. Sorry but that's just what we *don't* need. Adult GIFs converted to DCTV that were originally scanned from *copyrighted* magazines running all over the net and for sale on disks. The biggest waste of time and hardware IMHO. I just can't see why anyone would want to even try this or waste any of their time doing this. Why not just spend your time productively by actually producing *original* art on the DCTV rather than converting copyrighted worthless images. If you want to produce something and sell it, why not produce something useful like backgrounds, scenes, still-lifes and the like. How about you go out and take some nice photographs of sunsets and then digitize them into DCTV and sell them. We don't need any more X-rated scans from porno magazines or the centerfold of the month. I'm just so sick and tired of this that it's not even a joke anymore. If anyone wants to jump down my throat because of my opinion, then I suggest you drop me some e-mail and I will discard it as fast as it arrives. -- Bob The Graphics BBS 908/469-0049 "It's better than a sharp stick in the eye!" ============================================================================ InterNet: bobl@graphics.rent.com | Raven Enterprises UUCP: ...rutgers!bobsbox!graphics!bobl | 25 Raven Avenue BitNet: bobl%graphics.rent.com@pucc | Piscataway, NJ 08854 Home #: 908/560-7353 | 908/271-8878
kudla@jec313.its.rpi.edu (Robert J. Kudla) (06/08/91)
bobl@graphics.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdm) writes: >Sorry but that's just what we *don't* need. Adult GIFs converted to >DCTV that were originally scanned from *copyrighted* magazines >running all over the net and for sale on disks. So far, I agree - we really don't need Bob Guccione et al. harrassing us, and stuff I'm interested in (like the stuff Desmodus puts out; Drummer, Mach etc) is on shaky enough financial ground that I don't really feel right distributing it electronically far and wide. Let alone sell it. However: >The biggest waste of >time and hardware IMHO. I just can't see why anyone would want to >even try this or waste any of their time doing this. Why not just >spend your time productively by actually producing *original* art on >the DCTV rather than converting copyrighted worthless images. Because original art doesn't make your naughty bits act naughty? >If you want to produce something and sell it, why not produce >something useful like backgrounds, scenes, still-lifes and the like. >How about you go out and take some nice photographs of sunsets and >then digitize them into DCTV and sell them. Something "useful" like a still-life?? Or yet another sunset?? Sorry guy, but I'd rather be looking at an attractive naked man than yet another unfocused (artwise, not photowise) abstract/pastoral subject. Other than nudes, *my* favorite things to digitize are Roger Dean album covers. I'm just not about to *sell* another artist's work. >We don't need any more X-rated scans from porno magazines or the >centerfold of the month. I'm just so sick and tired of this that >it's not even a joke anymore. Read my lips, babe: If you don't like it, *don't download it*. If you're a newsadmin, stop the influx of alt.sex.pictures (our local site did). But don't shit on someone else's picnic. (hmm, did I just make up a new cliche?) >If anyone wants to jump down my throat because of my opinion, then I >suggest you drop me some e-mail and I will discard it as fast as it >arrives. No, I thought I'd waste some net bandwidth with a nice flame. Immature and pointless, but it sure is more satisfying to know it's falling on 40,000 sets of ears, only most of which may be deaf, rather than one ignorant set. -- Robert Jude Kudla - Any email sent me becomes my nonexclusive property. <kudla@rpi.edu> "Oh, forgive me, Assembly'O'God! Oh Jaysus, I jest stuck the tip in, oh ma god...."
cowgilc@prism.cs.orst.edu (Clayton Cowgill) (06/09/91)
Following up to my own article here folks- I've had positive responses and a negative response via E-mail. However, let's NOT start this moral squabbling. I'm nuking my original post, it's not worth my time if this is going to cause another flame fest. I'll honor the original E-mail requests I had. -Clay ##################===============------------===============################## Clayton Cowgill cowgilc@prism.cs.orst.edu Head Consultant Lab: (503) 737-2435 Oregon State University CS Dept. Home: (503) 757-7060 Corvallis, OR 97330
cowgilc@prism.cs.orst.edu (Clayton Cowgill) (06/09/91)
In <iw5736w164w@graphics.rent.com> bobl@graphics.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdm) writes: >Sorry but that's just what we *don't* need. Adult GIFs converted to >DCTV that were originally scanned from *copyrighted* magazines >running all over the net and for sale on disks. The biggest waste of ... Huh- hadn't occurred to me. Most of my images are from 'PD Disks' sold by various companies or from free BBS's... >If you want to produce something and sell it, why not produce ... >-- Bob *Sigh* It wasn't a 'produce and sell' venture. I'm doing the conversions anyway and was willing to distribute them. (C'mon now- $1 for a disk barely covers media, packaging, and shipping, much less my time- I already have a job...) Regardless (and depending if I had the distribution set right on my other message), I'm withdrawing my offer. I don't want a moral battle in the wrong newsgroup tarnishing my conscience. :-P -Clay ##################===============------------===============################## Clayton Cowgill cowgilc@prism.cs.orst.edu Head Consultant Lab: (503) 737-2435 Oregon State University CS Dept. Home: (503) 757-7060 Corvallis, OR 97330
bobl@graphics.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdm) (06/10/91)
kudla@jec313.its.rpi.edu (Robert J. Kudla) writes: > >If you want to produce something and sell it, why not produce > >something useful like backgrounds, scenes, still-lifes and the like. > >How about you go out and take some nice photographs of sunsets and > >then digitize them into DCTV and sell them. > > Something "useful" like a still-life?? Or yet another sunset?? Sorry > guy, but I'd rather be looking at an attractive naked man than yet > another unfocused (artwise, not photowise) abstract/pastoral subject. > Other than nudes, *my* favorite things to digitize are Roger Dean > album covers. I'm just not about to *sell* another artist's work. I was referring to scenes that could be used as image maps for 3D objects or backgrounds for composites and the like. Images that can be of further use to the rest of the graphics community to produce more artistic images. If you know anything at all about photography you would know that there are stock houses who sell images for further use by advertising agencies and the like. Some photo houses use some of the sunsets and flowers and other such images as portions of other images and backgrounds/backdrops for thier work. We could do the same. > >We don't need any more X-rated scans from porno magazines or the > >centerfold of the month. I'm just so sick and tired of this that > >it's not even a joke anymore. > > Read my lips, babe: If you don't like it, *don't download it*. If > you're a newsadmin, stop the influx of alt.sex.pictures (our local > site did). But don't shit on someone else's picnic. (hmm, did I just > make up a new cliche?) I certainly will not be obtaining copyrighted electronic nudes. And babe, it's a free world so I will shit on anyone's picnic I darn well please. Besides, it's only my opinion and not policy. <grin> > >If anyone wants to jump down my throat because of my opinion, then I > >suggest you drop me some e-mail and I will discard it as fast as it > >arrives. > > No, I thought I'd waste some net bandwidth with a nice flame. > Immature and pointless, but it sure is more satisfying to know it's > falling on 40,000 sets of ears, only most of which may be deaf, rather > than one ignorant set. Jezz, people are *very* quick to call others names on the net arn't they!?! Here is a person I don't even know and just because he doesn't like my opinion on a matter he has to go and start some sort of personal attack. Personally, I could care less. I just hope that others on the net are mature enough not to begin personal attacks on other netters just because they don't agree with them. > Robert Jude Kudla - Any email sent me becomes my nonexclusive property. <kudla@rpi.edu> -- Bob The Graphics BBS 908/469-0049 "It's better than a sharp stick in the eye!" ============================================================================ InterNet: bobl@graphics.rent.com | Raven Enterprises UUCP: ...rutgers!bobsbox!graphics!bobl | 25 Raven Avenue BitNet: bobl%graphics.rent.com@pucc | Piscataway, NJ 08854 Home #: 908/560-7353 | 908/271-8878
ewilts@janus.mtroyal.ab.ca (Ed Wilts) (06/11/91)
In article <iw5736w164w@graphics.rent.com>, bobl@graphics.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdm) writes: > cowgilc@prism.cs.orst.edu (Clayton Cowgill) writes: > >> Hi folks, >> >> Well, I just picked up my DCTV and it's pretty nice. I was kicking >> around the idea of converting a couple hundred meg of adult gifs to >> DCTV's 'display' file format. Being that there is a bit of processing >> (image cleanup mostly) involved on each picture (plus a new harddrive >> to store everything- ack! ;-) I was toying with the idea of making them >> available cheap in a PD Disk catalog. I'm thinking inexpensive for >> prices- (Maybe $1-$1.50 per disk? 5-6 images?). >> >> So... would anyone be interested in such a catalog? >> >> No flames on the content of this message, please. This isn't >> a commercial venture-- I just want to cover my costs and time and >> make the pics available some way other than the 'net. What is your definition of a commercial venture? When you start paying people for costs and tiem, that's commercialism. My employer pays me for my time. We pay developers for their time and costs to produce high quality software. > > Sorry but that's just what we *don't* need. Adult GIFs converted to > DCTV that were originally scanned from *copyrighted* magazines > running all over the net and for sale on disks. The biggest waste of > time and hardware IMHO. I just can't see why anyone would want to > even try this or waste any of their time doing this. Why not just > spend your time productively by actually producing *original* art on > the DCTV rather than converting copyrighted worthless images. > > If you want to produce something and sell it, why not produce > something useful like backgrounds, scenes, still-lifes and the like. > How about you go out and take some nice photographs of sunsets and > then digitize them into DCTV and sell them. > > -- Bob Agreed! Another commercial venture raping the profits from someone else's work shouldn't be supported. On the other hand, if he was to find subjects willing to pose for original works, that would be different. -- .../Ed Preferrred: Ed.Wilts@BSC.Galaxy.BCSystems.Gov.BC.CA Ed Wilts Alternate: EdWilts@BCSC02.BITNET (604) 389-3430 B.C. Systems Corp., 4000 Seymour Place, Victoria, B.C., Canada, V8X 4S8