drudetb@infonode.ingr.com (Ted B. Drude) (06/25/91)
I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, but I need a definitive answer from anyone who knows from first hand experience: Does the Toaster work with the 3000? Specifically, I'm considering getting in (by a hair's breadth) on the Power-up deal, and purchasing the 16Mhz 3000. When I called NewTek (admitedly a biased source) and asked whether the Toaster could be made compatible with 16mhz 3000, they said, (Quote) "No it is not. And we have not announced a date for the availability of a 3000-compatible model. At this point, we don't know if we will even do a 3000-compatible model Toaster." (??? What on earth is Newtek thinking about ???) The obfuscation of that statement was immediately clarified when the sales rep went on to say, "But Newtek is now shipping our own specially equipped 2000 model, with a toaster already installed for ~$3900." So I just said to myself, "Forget it, if I can't run the Toaster right away (~two-four months) on the 3000 I don't need to jump on the Power up deal." Now I keep hearing rumors of the 2000 Toaster working on the 3000 just fine. Please let me know what the real scoop is! - Thanks, Ted Drude (drudetb@ingr) or (drudetb@ingr.com)
jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J Eric Townsend) (06/25/91)
In article <1991Jun24.195904.27044@infonode.ingr.com> drudetb@infonode.ingr.com (Ted B. Drude) writes: >Does the Toaster work with the 3000? Specifically, I'm considering getting Yes, but you have to hardware hack (and void the warranty). >(??? What on earth is Newtek thinking about ???) They like selling the "Standalone" toaster for more than a 3000 + toaster combo. >Now I keep hearing rumors of the 2000 Toaster working on the 3000 just >fine. Please let me know what the real scoop is! Here's what you have to do: 1. Move a BNC connector on the backedge of the Toaster 2. Run the *old* denise chip set in your A3000. Rumor is that some sort of bug in the Toaster has been fixed to allow the new denise chipset, but I don't know if it's true. This information comes from "AdVid" (I think that's the name of it), a magazine I mysteriously began receiving for free. They showed pictures of the hack, and discussed the fact that it voids all warranties, but it *does* work. -- J. Eric Townsend - jet@uh.edu - bitnet: jet@UHOU - vox: (713) 749-2126 Skate UNIX! (curb fault: skater dumped) PowerGlove mailing list: glove-list-request@karazm.math.uh.edu
metahawk@aix01.aix.rpi.edu (Wayne G Rigby) (06/25/91)
In article <1991Jun24.195904.27044@infonode.ingr.com> drudetb@infonode.ingr.com (Ted B. Drude) writes: >Does the Toaster work with the 3000? Specifically, I'm considering getting >in (by a hair's breadth) on the Power-up deal, and purchasing the 16Mhz >3000. When I called NewTek (admitedly a biased source) and asked >whether the Toaster could be made compatible with 16mhz 3000, they said, <stuff deleted to cut down bandwidth> >- Thanks, > >Ted Drude (drudetb@ingr) or (drudetb@ingr.com) Well, the 2000 VT will work in the 3000, if you replace the ECS video chip (Paula, Denise? I can never remeber its name) with the non-ECS version and if you cut a hole in the back of the 3000 so the board can fit inside. I've heard a rumor that the ECS chip incompatibility has been fixed, but haven't seen it myself. My suggestion is that if you want to do Video Toasting, either get a suped up 2000, or wait for the 3000T (hopefully will be out within a year, but who can say?). Of course, NewTek might come out with a VT that fits in the 3000, but I wouldn't hold my breath. "Hello? Is anybody in there?" Wayne Rigby "Just nod if you can hear me." Computer and Systems Engineer (in training) - Pink Floyd Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute metahawk@rpi.edu
rkmossm@PacBell.COM (Richard Mossman) (06/26/91)
In article <1991Jun24.195904.27044@infonode.ingr.com> drudetb@infonode.ingr.com (Ted B. Drude) writes:
Officially, NO it won't work with the 3000, but ...
In the SF area there are a couple of Amiga stores that sell the 3000 with
the Toaster installed. Their ratioale is that the Commodore warranty is void
but, because they are authorized repair shops, they will give you their
warranty for the same period. That way you don't lose anything.
Both of the ones I know about have been around for a long while and are probably
a pretty safe bet.
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Richard K. Mossman {att,bellcore,sun,ames,decwrl}!pacbell!rkmossm
415/823-0974
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