markg@amix.commodore.com (Mark Gardner) (03/25/91)
I've seen NoiseTracker, MED, SoundTracker, and several other mutations, and one thought always enters my mind: is it THAT difficult to create such a program that uses Intuition as it was meant to be used? I thought the idea of a GUI (especially the AmigaOS 2.0) was to make program interfaces that looked similar to other programs, thereby flattening the learning curve and speeding up productivity. Every time I fire up the latest *tracker to come down the bitstream, I'm reminded of programs on my old C64 - proprietary interfaces, lo-res screens, and all. As the old adage goes, "it's easy if you know how". I don't know if this is a flame or not - I'd like to think of it as constructive criticism. I use MED right now, grudgingly. If the author(s) of this program would implement the amazing features and abilities it has (or rather, those I've heard it has) into something I can get at easily, it would be a joy to use, and might move from a funky musichacker's tool into a truly commercial-quality product. -Mark Gardner markg@undrground.uucp
chuckt@theborg.mlb.fl.us (Chuck Teschke) (03/27/91)
Well you should remember that all these tracker programs are written by people who probably where programmers on the 64 and liked that kind of interface. And these are not commercial quality products because they are PD programs done in someones spare time. I finally got Klisje_paa_klisje, Very impressive! great piano samples and whoever did it is a master of guitar lead effects! When i play it in protracker i have to go back to vblank timimg because the cia timer messes up when it gets to the part where it speeds up really fast and then stops. for some reason the timer drops to 35 and it diesnt go back to the regular speed. And for whoever was asking about an arexx player for med, theres someone here on the net who wrote a player program for arexx that you can even use to play modules in amigavision. i dont remember his name, but maby he will see you post and send it to ya. |Chuck Teschke | -Self confessed LEMMINGS addict!! |---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | USENET:chuckt@theborg.mlb.fl.us|"If i have 5 megs of RAM, then why does | | FIDONET: 374/1 | this program keep accessing the disk?!?"| |---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Lets go, uh oh,no blockers!, wait wheres my digger? oh no! splash,splash..."
dlnghrst@telstr.UUCP (David Langhorst) (03/28/91)
The reason trackers in general (especially MED) don't use the traditional intuition interface is the fact that they contain 100s, even 1000s of functions. Using pull-down menus for such functions would be tragic...there wouldn't be enough room, and only 1/2 as much as a overscan screen (the lo-rez is used to conserve chip RAM)...Windows would be useless...the only real thing you could re-size would be the sequence window, and it's nice to always have it as large as possible (as it is in MED)...MED's setup is the most logical so far in my opinion...having tried to use others (noisetracker, future composer etc) I have given up before actually writing anything...MED on the other hand, I used before even noticing the doc file...the 10 catagorized menus couldn't be done any other way and still retain their functions...(like variables...imagine having a window pop up and ask you what tempo you'd like) But, of course, this is just MY opinion... /| _ |\ --- My opinions are better than your opinions! --- /_||\/| | / _|_\ --- David Langhorst..... AKA Ivan D Terrible --- / || | | \_/| \ / ___----------___ \ -- --