jralph@cix.compulink.co.uk (Jolyon Ralph) (04/03/91)
I got fed up of the user interface on MED, which in my opinion is
diabolical, and I got fed up of Protracker, which had a nice
interface but isn't very operating-system friendly, so I've
written a large lump of Intuition-based setup code for
the next version of Protracker (Version 2.5 probably). I've
been talking to Lars Hamre (the author of Protracker), and the only
delay at the moment is that we are thinking about redesigning
Protracker to run on a medium-res screen (probably NTSC).
If there are any ideas for what you would like added to the
new version, shout now and I'll either code them myself or
pass on the (boring!) ideas to Lars.
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Jolyon Ralph. The opinions expressed in the above are mine,
although you can borrow them if you want.
"There must be something terribly wrong with the universe..." A.Dentaaron@stat.tamu.edu (Aaron Hightower) (04/05/91)
In article <1991Apr02.040410PM.8929@demon.co.uk> jralph@cix.compulink.co.uk (Jolyon Ralph) writes: >I got fed up of the user interface on MED, which in my opinion is ... Just a reminder, I am not arguing, but I don't see much wrong with MED; the reason I am posting this, however, is not to defend software, but to share something I found about motivational factors. >If there are any ideas for what you would like added to the >new version, shout now and I'll either code them myself or >pass on the (boring!) ideas to Lars. "An example of this extrinsic encroachment on intrinsic motivation is evident when a writer begins to pander to the wishes of his or her audience. As the brilliant Russian novelist Leo Tolstoy acknowledged (Solzhenitsynm 1980), when a writer performs for profit, the essence of genius is lost. What must come from within is then being dictated by external demands. Accordingly, when those demands shift, so does the writer's behavior, sometimes to the point of abandoning the writing altogether." This is taken from my Psychology book. I wouldn't really feel compelled to say this except that I feel I have had this happen to me. I think that the functionality of MED is good enough to overlook something as simple as the appearance of the product. After all, the guy doesn't ask you to give him any appraisal or anything. Don't bother criticizing him; I for one like what he has done for the Amiga community. Let the guy do his thing - it is just a hobby for him! I think he's doing GREAT! >Jolyon Ralph. The opinions expressed in the above are mine, > although you can borrow them if you want. > >"There must be something terribly wrong with the universe..." A.Dent "There must be something wonderfully beautiful about the unviverse..." A.Fact :-) Aaron
mattij@tuura.UUCP (Matti Joutkoski) (04/10/91)
aaron@stat.tamu.edu (Aaron Hightower) writes: >Just a reminder, I am not arguing, but I don't see much wrong with MED; >the reason I am posting this, however, is not to defend software, but to >share something I found about motivational factors. I see a lot. It is UGLY, it doesn't look like a professional SW should to. But is there REALY any musicians, who are using this MED? I haven't seen. -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Matti Joutkoski, mattij@yj.data.nokia.fi, tel. + 358-0-5673866. ---------------------------------------------------------------
holgerl@amiux.UUCP (Holger Lubitz) (04/12/91)
In article <1149@tuura.UUCP> mattij@tuura.UUCP (Matti Joutkoski) writes: >I see a lot. It is UGLY, it doesn't look like a professional SW should to. >But is there REALY any musicians, who are using this MED? I haven't seen. Could you stop this senseless MED flaming ? It is neither supposed to look like "professional SW" since it isn't, nor is it supposed to satisfy just about everybody's needs and wishes. MED is just a freeware program - BTW: It's even a great one. And here am I once again: I USE MED AND I LIKE IT ! I am even thinking of converting all my old, still unpublished Soundtracker-Songs from 1987/88 to MED, using its new features and maybe even some synthetic sound effects instead of the original samples. Hmm, but then again I am used to the samples in these songs... Looks like I'll just have to find out how good they'll sound in MED with some synthetical instruments instead of the samples... Ah, yes: Please note the Follow-Up ! Best regards, Holger -- Holger Lubitz, Kl. Drakenburger Str. 24, D-W-3070 Nienburg/Weser
C503719@UMCVMB.MISSOURI.EDU (Baird McIntosh) (04/12/91)
In Message-ID: <1149@tuura.UUCP> mattij@tuura.UUCP (Matti Joutkoski) said: >aaron@stat.tamu.edu (Aaron Hightower) writes: > > >>Just a reminder, I am not arguing, but I don't see much wrong with MED; >>the reason I am posting this, however, is not to defend software, but to >>share something I found about motivational factors. > >I see a lot. It is UGLY, it doesn't look like a professional SW should to. > >But is there REALY any musicians, who are using this MED? I haven't seen. Well, I doubt that Depeche Mode or Vangelis or The Boston Symphony or The Art of Noise use MED, but what do you mean by 'musician'? I use MED. Several people that post here use MED. Are we musicians? Who's to say? I REALLY use MED because MED is very easy to use, very organized, very multitaskable, and very NTSC-compatible. Perhaps Protracker et al look better on a PAL screen? To me, there is too much stuff on the screen at once, and it's poorly arranged. It seems like you Protracker advocates would have me purchase a new set of chips for my Amiga and/or move to Europe just to use a poorly multitasking, poorly organized music editor that only supports the PAL television standard. MED's looks aren't as important as its *PROFESSIONAL FUNCTIONALITY*. I wonder if this hate of MED is some deep-rooted prejudice of a program that is not directly 'derived' from Soundtracker? MED supports WB 2.0, uses standard front/back gadgets, is quite bug-free, and is just plainly more useful. None of these programs use the Intuition menu-bar with pulldown menus, but oh well--they aren't perfect. [I also like Sonix and its analog synth instruments. Sonix is commercial, of course.] | Baird McIntosh | c503719@umcvmb.missouri.edu <-or-> c503719@umcvmb.bitnet | | "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." | | "Let's go!" LEMMINGS "Oh no!" |
davidc@contact.uucp (Ice Weasle) (04/14/91)
> I REALLY use MED because MED is very easy to use, very organized, very >multitaskable, and very NTSC-compatible. Perhaps Protracker et al look >better on a PAL screen? To me, there is too much stuff on the screen at >once, and it's poorly arranged. It seems like you Protracker advocates would >have me purchase a new set of chips for my Amiga and/or move to Europe just >to use a poorly multitasking, poorly organized music editor that only supports >the PAL television standard. Since ProTracker was created in Europe, it's a safe bet that it's designed to run in PAL. So what? I run 100% of the time in PAL as there are LESS incompatibilities than the other way round! In regards to poorly laid-out systems, one could say that MED is just as bad if not worse... It's all a matter of personal taste I think. So you're saying that 'we' are trying to make you buy up to date equipment? I think not... 8) That's YOUR decision not to be compatible. You can have more on the screen in PAL mode... Also, you're DEAD wrong as to multi-tasking... It 'Tasks better than ANY tracker-type program out there today.. > MED's looks aren't as important as its *PROFESSIONAL FUNCTIONALITY*. I >wonder if this hate of MED is some deep-rooted prejudice of a program that >is not directly 'derived' from Soundtracker? Not at all... I have all the tracker programs currently available including T.F.M.X. which is used heavily in music scoring for some of the best software that's come out... I am comparing MED against every package I have, and have seen... > MED supports WB 2.0, uses standard front/back gadgets, is quite bug-free, >and is just plainly more useful. None of these programs use the Intuition >menu-bar with pulldown menus, but oh well--they aren't perfect. Have you even USED ProTracker? It works under 2.0. (never heard of Amiga-M?) or try pressing the "`" key... that lets you pop out and 'task at any time... 8) >[I also like Sonix and its analog synth instruments. Sonix is commercial, >of course.] (erg. gak) Well, it was nice for the time, but it would have been nicer with real note ties... Too much to ask for? I think not. 8P -- Dave Carlton (davidc@ziebmef.mef.org!white.toronto.edu) "There's more than one way to skin a cat", Lydia thought, as she nailed the little paws to the dissection board... Richard Deming