[comp.sys.amiga.audio] Music-X

pmiller@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Paul Miller) (02/19/91)

I have a few questions about Music-X. Does it support standard MIDI files,
and do the built-in librarians handle D-50 and Korg M-1 patches?
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barrett@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Dan Barrett) (02/21/91)

In article <21289@know.pws.bull.com> pmiller@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Paul Miller) writes:
>I have a few questions about Music-X. Does it support standard MIDI files,

	Yes.

>and do the built-in librarians handle D-50 and Korg M-1 patches?

	I recall seeing not only a D-50 librarian, but a D-50 patch
editor included.  I don't think there's M-1 support supplied.

	HOWEVER, it comes with a "generic" librarian protocol that
captures almost any data.

	ALSO HOWEVER, you can write your own protocol in about an hour if
you understand MIDI system-exclusive format.

	ALSO ALSO HOWEVER :-), MicroIllusions has collected lots of 
protocols from people and plans to make them available to Music-X owners.
(I don't know if this means "free" or $$.)

                                                        Dan

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nsw@cbnewsm.att.com (Neil Weinstock) (02/25/91)

In article <7619@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> barrett@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Dan Barrett) writes:
>In article <21289@know.pws.bull.com> pmiller@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Paul Miller) writes:
[ ... ]
>>and do the built-in librarians handle D-50 and Korg M-1 patches?
>
>	I recall seeing not only a D-50 librarian, but a D-50 patch
>editor included.  I don't think there's M-1 support supplied.
>
>	HOWEVER, it comes with a "generic" librarian protocol that
>captures almost any data.
>
>	ALSO HOWEVER, you can write your own protocol in about an hour if
>you understand MIDI system-exclusive format.
[ ... ]

The M-1 is tricky due to the funky way the sys-ex data is encoded.  There
is no explicit support for it in the Music-X generic librarian.

It should be possible to get a patch protocol up and running, though I
tried and failed a while back (I oughta try again, since I know more now...)
Limitations are:

	1)  The names will look at least a little funny, since there is 
	    character in the middle that corresponds to the high-order bits
	    of seven other characters.

	2)  Don't even *think* of trying the generic patch editor on the data,
	    unless you are some amazing kind of masochist.

Like I said, it should be possible, and the above limitations aren't too
terrible.  If I come up with one I'll post it.

                                   - Neil

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whites@unvax.union.edu (Shayne White) (03/01/91)

	I have a question for Music-X users out there.  Have you had

problems with using it with expansion memory?  My arts class is using an
Amiga 2000 w/ about 5megs overall, with 1 meg of chip.  It is also
equipped with a genlock (Professional Image or something like that).
When trying to boot Music-X with this setup, I get a guru
#00000003.0020F858.  Anyone know what this is.  It is version 1.0 of
Music-X.  The manual says the more memory the better...?  Music-X
executes a fastmemfirst in its startup-sequence, which makes sense for a
program of its nature.  I did get it to boot by running nofastmem before
it, but now it only leaves about 55K left for samples.  Have upgrades (I
know there have been some) fixed these problems, or am I just doing
something obviously wrong?

	-Shayne White (92_whites.gar.union.edu)

barrett@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Dan Barrett) (03/02/91)

In article <1991Mar1.015115.6694@unvax.union.edu> whites@unvax.union.edu (Shayne White) writes:
>
>	I have a question for Music-X users out there.  Have you had
>problems with using it with expansion memory?  My arts class is using an
>Amiga 2000 w/ about 5megs overall, with 1 meg of chip.

	I used Music-X 1.0 with 2.5 MB RAM (Amiga 1000) with no problems.

	Note that Music-X grabs almost all available FAST RAM when it runs.
Maybe you have a bad RAM chip somewhere near the end of your memory.  Just
a thought.

                                                        Dan

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whites@unvax.union.edu (Shayne White) (03/06/91)

	Thanks to all those who replied to my earlier posting.  To
rehash things, I couldn't get Music-X to boot w/ expansion ram.  Someone
suggested that the fast ram may be bad.  I'm sorry I don't remember who
it was, but you were infact correct.  At least I'm pretty sure you are.
I ran a program called systest and it reveiled bad fast ram somewhere...
Bingo.  Now I just have to get the damned thing fixed....   :-(

Shayne White (92_whites@unvax.union.edu)

kudla@rpi.edu (Robert J. Kudla) (04/18/91)

Well, I finally broke down and ordered Music-X; it's gonna be in my
sweaty little hands tomorrow night.  Not that I'll get to use it since
I'm going to see Yes in Hartford, but anyway.... :)

I've heard that librarians or maybe even editors exist for DX-7 and
Korg M-1 patches.  I'm not so worried about the DX 'cause I have a
fairly reliable patch dump/store program somewhere along with a few
billion patches, but with the M-1 I've never been able to reliably
archive my patches to Amiga disk.  Assuming it's free|shareware or PD,
could someone mail me whatever it is I need to get my Korg and Amiga
to speak intimately with each other about stuff like patches and
combis using Music-X?  I'd be really appreciative......  Any hints or
warnings about using Music-X with the DX and M-1 would be welcome as
well.

Thanks.....

Robert Jude Kudla <kudla@rpi.edu>
                                   
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