grue@guru.pub.uu.oz.au (Grue) (04/15/91)
Just a bit of an enquiry....Has anyone ever heard of a way of sampling direct from a CD-ROM? I would have thought the quality of the sound would be much higher, as two D/A conversions would be avoided, and there should be no losses in the process if the CD-ROM is outputting a digital signal. Adam Eberbach Nope, no sigblock yet..... ------------ -> Perls of Wisdom from grue@guru.pub.uu.oz.au (Grue) -> User Level: 1 (Llama) -> The Guru Meditation BBS - (03) 375 3438 (all speeds to 9600)
jmauric@hubcap.clemson.edu (Phantom of Adexsi) (04/17/91)
From article <eiuF14w164w@guru.pub.uu.oz.au>, by grue@guru.pub.uu.oz.au (Grue): > Just a bit of an enquiry....Has anyone ever heard of a way of sampling > direct from a CD-ROM? I would have thought the quality of the sound would > be much higher, as two D/A conversions would be avoided, and there should > be no losses in the process if the CD-ROM is outputting a digital signal. > > Adam Eberbach > > Nope, no sigblock yet..... > i do this every once in a while. im not an expert, but i think the samples are better. i almost have ARMEGEDDONIT by def leppard transferred from CD to disk in case youre interested. --john -- =============================================================================== !X! Music Edit Tools Special ! 999999999 Bytes Free =====! !================================================================= !#Opera#!______
lshaw@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (logan shaw) (04/17/91)
In article <1991Apr17.132257.15433@hubcap.clemson.edu> jmauric@hubcap.clemson.edu (Phantom of Adexsi) writes: >From article <eiuF14w164w@guru.pub.uu.oz.au>, by grue@guru.pub.uu.oz.au (Grue): >> Just a bit of an enquiry....Has anyone ever heard of a way of sampling >> direct from a CD-ROM? I would have thought the quality of the sound would >> be much higher, as two D/A conversions would be avoided, and there should >> be no losses in the process if the CD-ROM is outputting a digital signal. >i do this every once in a while. im not an expert, but i think the samples >are better. i almost have ARMEGEDDONIT by def leppard transferred from CD to >disk in case youre interested. > --john HOW?!?!? What CD-ROM drive? What controller? What software? Thanks, Logan -- // # "He said that He had your number; you cut the telephone line. \X/ # You said you needed a reason; He said 'there ain't much time.' Logan # You kept trying to avoid it; He kept knocking on the door. Shaw # In a flash it was over; you were a prisoner of war." -Rez Band
roger_earl@outbound.wimsey.bc.ca (Roger Earl) (04/18/91)
CDTV has built in MIDI ports and new CDs are being made with MIDI information on the disk as well as still graphics (CD-g). I'm sure all of the MIDI information will be there, including sampling to another MIDI device. I'm no MIDI expert, so I'm not sure how it works and I've heard that sending samples thru MIDI is slow. Is anyone sure whether or not this will work ? **************************************************************************** * "The personal computer market is about the same size as the total potato * * chip market. Next year it will be about half the size of the pet food * * market and is fast approaching the total worldwide sales of pantyhose" * * -James Finke, Pres., Commodore Int'l Ltd.(1982)- * **************************************************************************** Roger Earl = Usenet: roger_earl@outbound.wimsey.bc.ca = GEnie: R.Earl4
kcampbel@uafhp.uark.edu (Keith Alan Campbell) (04/22/91)
There already is a mechanism for direct digital communication from CD's and to and from DAT's and other digital recording mechanisms. The professional version is called AES/EBU and is commonly seen in pro digital audio gear. There are several common consumer formats as well. The digital audio card (16 bit) we are developing for SunRize uses AES/EBU and three common consumer formats, for recording directly to disk, and direct digital mastering, without analog conversion, to DAT. Don Kennedy Audio Specialist Vision Quest Systems
moonhawk@bluemoon.uucp (David Culberson) (04/24/91)
kcampbel@uafhp.uark.edu (Keith Alan Campbell) writes: > version is called AES/EBU and is commonly seen in pro digital audio gear. > (16 bit) we are developing for SunRize uses AES/EBU and three common consumer > formats, for recording directly to disk, and direct digital mastering, withou > analog conversion, to DAT. Would this card happen to be the AD1016 that is bundled with the Studio 16 SW? I just read about it in the Amiga World, and seems to be incredible <BTW it was an ad, not a writeup>. Is it finished and shipping yet or is it just in preliminery stages? David This is from moonhawk@bluemoon.uucp moonhawk%bluemoon@nstar.rn.com who doesn't have their own obnoxious signature yet
rnm@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Marsanyi) (04/24/91)
_Extremely_ interested in your brief mention of a 16-bit board for the Amiga, as are many colleagues of mine. We're using a 56000 bare-bones board right now, definitely for hackers only, and the release of a pro-level commercial product a la AudioMedia would be most welcome. Got any more details?
bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (04/24/91)
In article <roger_earl.5041@outbound.wimsey.bc.ca>, roger_earl@outbound.wimsey.bc.ca (Roger Earl) writes: > CDTV has built in MIDI ports and new CDs are being made with MIDI information > on the disk as well as still graphics (CD-g). I'm sure all of the MIDI > information will be there, including sampling to another MIDI device. I'm no > MIDI expert, so I'm not sure how it works and I've heard that sending samples > thru MIDI is slow. Is anyone sure whether or not this will work ? > > Roger Earl = Usenet: roger_earl@outbound.wimsey.bc.ca = GEnie: R.Earl4 The MIDI protocol does not support real time sampleing. MIDI does support sending samples from one MIDI device to another, but this is when the sound has already been sampled. MIDI messages do not normally contain information about the actual sound to be played, just the note to be played, volume, pitch bending, duration and device control messages. The data used to create the actual sound (piano, barking dogs, etc) is contained within the sound module that the MIDI messages are sent to. To be able to use samples which the CDTV may (or may not) be able to transmit in the MIDI protocol, you have to have a device which can understand the MIDI sample message data (only a small number of MIDI devices recognise the sample dump messages) and it is not normal for such samples to be transmitted as part of a real time performance. The normal meathod is to download the samples to the sound modules beforehand, in a bulk dump mode. I am not familiar with the CDTV so I cannot say if it can produce MIDI sample data. Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au OR bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz Alias: Gareth Bull, The Opal Dragon DOD# 251 '84 VF 750 Closet Ducatisti Disclaimer: "It's a cruel world when you can't afford a Ducati."
kcampbel@uafhp.uark.edu (Keith Alan Campbell) (04/25/91)
We tend to think of the Studio 16 software as being bundled with the card :) but yes, it is the same one in the ad in the May Amiga World. The hardware will compare favorably to anything on the Mac, and betters some in some significant respects. We are finalizing the design now, and are having to wait for an important new chip to be available before we can make our final board layout changes. This week I had a chance to look at an early version of the Studio 16 software. I have a LONG list of suggestions to make the software both more professional and more functional. I hope they will be taken seriously. We are considering development of a specialized branch of our company dedicated to the promotion, development, and sales of professional digital audio applications specific to the Amiga, based on our hardware and third party software. Already several companies have shown an interest in developing advanced music software for our system. Peggy Herrington of .info magazine has promised more about the card in the May edition of their magazine. If you want more info, I have a preliminary spec sheet I can email. Don Kennedy Audio Specialist Vision Quest Systems
kcampbel@uafhp.uark.edu (Keith Alan Campbell) (04/25/91)
I'll be glad to provide any information you need. Contact me directly or SunRize Industries for more details. Don Kennedy Audio Specialist Vision Quest Systems (501) 521-0420 (501) 253-5264 reply to kcampbel@uafhp.uark.edu