That guy with more modules than Ab20... (Nathan Ramella) (05/20/91)
So, you want to rip MODs... Well, I'll try my best to help you. I've been ripping MODs for about a year, maybe 2. Ah, I remember when I first ripped Cream of the Earth.. Those were the days. Anyway, I will refer to 'Multiripper2.Xa/b' as 'ripper'. I hate long names, their useless. Okay, starting out. There are many diffrent ways to rip MODs from demos... I'll list a few. 1. Running an executable demo, pressing the left/right mouse button to stop it, and running ripper to grab it out of memory. 2. Loading the demo into ripper, and letting it run, then stopping it by pressing the left/right mouse button. 3. Running the executable demo, and rebooting the machine (Bcoz it won't let you get out of it by pressing anything...) 4. Turning the computer off, because demos *SOMETIMES* have little routines that clear the memory when you reboot, or when you WorkBench is booting up it writes information over the demo in the memory, erasing it from mem, or thrashing the module to all h***. To rip a mod, in the first fashion, for beginner users, I will list each step in a more specific way... 1. Run the demo (I.E. 'run demonamehere') 2. Let the demo unpack, and begin. (It doesn't matter how long you let the demo run, as soon as it starts.) When it starts, all the information is in memory, so unless you acctually read the scrolly text, you might as well stop the demo now. 3. To stop the demo, press the left button, most demos use this. If the demo will not stop, then you must try the second fashion to rip the mod. But, lets just say it does, so I can go on. 4. Run your Module ripper program, and 'h'unt for the modules. If you find a module, cd to the disk: and /dir that you want to save it, and type 'save mod.modulename' (This method works wonders with executable music...) To rip in the second fashion... 1. Run your module ripper program. 2. cd to the disk: /dir that holds your executeable demo, and type 'run demoname'. It should uncrunch it, and run it. *NOTE* this method usually only works with demos that can be exited by pressing the left/right mouse buttons. If the demo cannot be exited by pressing anything (Except the on/off button on your computer) You need to use the THIRD fashion to rip the module. But, lets just say this demo can be exited by pressing somthing, next step... 3. 'H'unt for the module, and if you find something, save it as in step 4, for the first fashion. To rip in the third fashion... 1. Run the executable demo. 2. Try to exit by pressing buttons, and such, and since you can't, reboot your machine. 3. Put in your Workbench disk (1.3) or let your computer reboot (Auto booters, and 2.0) and press Cntrl-D to stop you startup sequence. 4. Run your ripper program, and hunt once again. Save as in step 4, fashion 1. To rip in the fourth fashion... 1. Run the executable demo. 2. Try exiting, and rebooting, and if it STILL isn't there, turn off your computer for a second, and turn it back on. (Oh my, I can hear the little techies saying "But, when you turn your computer off, you're supposed to keep it off for some 30-40 seconds.) *Side note* --- Let me tell you this, I have been turning on and off my computerfor years, without waiting 30 seconds, I just turn it on and off, because I hate waiting. And here's another thing, I acctually unplug/plug my mouse, WHILE the computer is on!!! (Golly, I'm a rebel!!) I am not telling everyone to do this, I am just saying, that I have never fried my computer (Or myself) doing this.And that people who turn their computer off, to plug in the Serial port, are weenies. *heh..* But anyway... 3. While your computer is booting up, press Cntrl-D repeatedly until you have halted your startup-sequence, and you can run 'stuff' from the AmigaDOS shell. 4. Run ripper, and hunt, and save as in step 4, fashion 1. ADDED BONUS!!! Hints on ripping Modules from MegaDisk demos!!! Well, with the recent rise of MegaDemos, from such groups as BudBraiN, nd Fairlight, I think this is in order. *NOTE, Most demos nowadays are in PAL, so.. Here is a little prep help, for 1.3 and 2.0 users. If you want to run a demo in 1.3, let your computer boot up, an run the program 'Bootpal' from Nico Fancois. Then reboot, and the computer should be in PAL. If you have a 3000, boot up in 1.3rom 'mode' and do the same. Insert you disk, and let the demo begin. This is basicly like fasion 3 and 4. Let it go until you get the Module you want to rip, and then reboot. Though, BudbraiN (In BUDvsCRIO) made it so you couldn't reboot, and get the modules. It cleared the memory, or some such rot. So, I had to turn off my CPU, and turn it back on. Well, that's the basics.. Keep ripping folx, I taught myself how to do all this stuff, and you can too. It just takes a little work. ALSO, I want to plug, UGA (United Grafix Artists) and their Disk Magazine 'Newsflash'.. That is my MAJOR source of modules, *AND* demos. It is a 2 disk set, and they usually have good music, and grafix, and new applications. At the moment, I have about 6 megs of music. that I got from UGA, it sorta makes me wonder, if I am the only person with Usenet access that knows about it. Anyway, if anyone has any questions about Multiripper, I have been using it for a LONG time, and am pretty handy with it. Please respond via this news group, so that I don't get 10 of the same questions from one person... And. Forgive my spelling/format/language, This is my first post on the Usenet, and I'm only 15 years old. :( No flames, No nuthin, pleeze. Nathan Ramella -- To the World Floyd -- To TinyWORLD (134.3.2.56 6250) Hey you -- To everyone else... ---- No Sigfile ---- Floyd -- To TinyWORLD s n t s q Floyd -- To TinyWORLD (
Shannon Lawson <lawsonse@vttcf.cc.vt.edu> (05/21/91)
> 2. Try exiting, and rebooting, and if it STILL isn't there, turn off your > computer for a second, and turn it back on. (Oh my, I can hear the little > techies saying "But, when you turn your computer off, you're supposed to > keep it off for some 30-40 seconds.) Yes, you ARE supposed to wait... But I see why you are doing what you're doing. > *Side note* --- Let me tell you this, I have been turning on and off my computerfor years, without waiting 30 seconds, I just turn it on and off, because I > hate waiting. And here's another thing, I acctually unplug/plug my mouse, WHILE > the computer is on!!! (Golly, I'm a rebel!!) I am not telling everyone to do this, I am just saying, that I have never fried my computer (Or myself) doing this.And that people who turn their computer off, to plug in the Serial port, are > weenies. *heh..* But anyway... I'll admit that I've been guilty of the same thing in the past, but it's been my painful experience (and those of others in similar situations) that the 3000 is less tolerant of connecting peripherals under power (even joystick/mouse) than previous Amiga models. Apparently, the CIA chips (8520's) are more sensitive to static and other "noise" than previous incarnations. I dunno. Anyway, the net result is that I know several people who have been burned by plugging joysticks or the mouse in under power on 3000's. You can probably get away with it most of the time on 500/1000/2000/2500 machines, but doing so on the 3000 is definitely bad news. Especially if your local repair center operates on a module replacement basis. Translation: "Oh, Mr. Customer, you need a whole new motherboard! (big $$$)" Moral: Don't do it! -- Shannon Lawson Graduate Student, Electrical Engineering