sdfusc@mac.cc.macalstr.edu (04/05/91)
Does anyone have any infromation on a new 12-bit audio board from Sunrize
industries? I heard rumors that it was at or near completion. Any info
regarding this board and its specifications would be greatly appreciated.
Doug
sdfusc@macalstr.edumerlin@presto.UUCP (Jeff W. Hyche) (06/07/91)
What is the story behind the new AD1012 and 16 with the
Studio 16 from SunRize? It looks likeit will be real good or at
least the ad in AmigaWorld make it look nice. But there is no
price listed. Any guesses?
--
// Jeff Hyche
There can be only one! \\ // Usenet: hychejw@infonode.ingr.com
\X/ UUCP: ...!uunet!sci34hub!presto!merlincmw1725@tamsun.tamu.edu (Christopher Walton) (06/07/91)
In article <merlin.0610@presto.UUCP> merlin@presto.UUCP (Jeff W. Hyche) writes: > > What is the story behind the new AD1012 and 16 with the >Studio 16 from SunRize? It looks likeit will be real good or at >least the ad in AmigaWorld make it look nice. But there is no >price listed. Any guesses? The approximate retail prices are as follows... AD1012 -- 12 Bit digitizer -- $400-$500 AD1016 -- 16 Bit digitizer -- $2000 For more information call SunRize Ind. at 408-374-4962.
kcampbel@uafhp.uark.edu (Keith Alan Campbell) (06/10/91)
As the co-designer of the AD1016, I can give you approximate costs for the boards as given to me by SunRize. The AD 1016 is to be around $2,000 and the AD1012 is to be in the $500 range. These are only approximate and are subject to change, since SunRize and not our company are determining prices. Disclaimer: We did not design or have anything to do with the AD1012. Don Kennedy Audio Specialist Vision Quest Systems
hychejw@infonode.ingr.com (Jeff W. Hyche) (06/11/91)
kcampbel@uafhp.uark.edu (Keith Alan Campbell) writes: >As the co-designer of the AD1016, I can give you approximate costs for the >boards as given to me by SunRize. The AD 1016 is to be around $2,000 and the >AD1012 is to be in the $500 range. These are only approximate and are subject >to change, since SunRize and not our company are determining prices. Next Question. What is the differnce between the AD1016 and AD1012? The AD1016 sounds like a execellent card but what makes it worth 1500 bucks more that the 12? -- // Jeff Hyche There can be only one! \\ // Usenet: hychejw@infonode.ingr.com \X/ Freenet: ap255@po.CWRU.Edu
dingebre@imp.es.com (David Ingebretsen) (06/11/91)
In article <1991Jun10.173122.16888@infonode.ingr.com>, hychejw@infonode.ingr.com (Jeff W. Hyche) writes: > kcampbel@uafhp.uark.edu (Keith Alan Campbell) writes: > > > > >As the co-designer of the AD1016, I can give you approximate costs for the > >boards as given to me by SunRize. The AD 1016 is to be around $2,000 and the > >AD1012 is to be in the $500 range. These are only approximate and are subject > >to change, since SunRize and not our company are determining prices. > > Next Question. What is the differnce between the AD1016 and > AD1012? The AD1016 sounds like a execellent card but what makes it > worth 1500 bucks more that the 12? > -- > // Jeff Hyche > There can be only one! \\ // Usenet: hychejw@infonode.ingr.com > \X/ Freenet: ap255@po.CWRU.Edu > One reason that comes to mind is the added cost and performance of 16 bit precision rather than 12 bit. David David Ingebretsen Evans and Sutherland Computer Corporation 600 Komas Drive Salt Lake City, UT 84108 (801) 582-5847 x3758 dingebre@es.com
kcampbel@uafhp.uark.edu (Keith Alan Campbell) (06/11/91)
There is a significant number of differences between the AD1016 and the AD1012. First, the AD1016 is 16 bit stereo, designed to have specifications similar to compact discs and DAT players, with which the system can communicate digitally. The AD1012 is 12 bit mono, roughly equivalent to non-Dolby cassette deck quality. The AD1012 doesn't have a digital audio I/O capability. The AD1012 is using a less expensive DSP to control its sampling and on-board effects. The AD1016 is using the Motorola DSP56001 processor, the same as is used on the digidesign Sound Accelerator/Sound Tools/Audiomedia system and in the NeXT computer. The SunRize's market for the AD1012 is primarily standard video applications where stereo isn't necessary and the sound quality matches that of non-HiFi decks. SunRize intends to market the AD1016 as a high-end audio/music editing system. We at Vision Quest Systems are looking at some very high end music software applications for it. Don Kennedy Audio Specialist Vision Quest Systems
moonhawk@bluemoon.uucp (David Culberson) (06/12/91)
kcampbel@uafhp.uark.edu (Keith Alan Campbell) writes: > There is a significant number of differences between the AD1016 and the AD101 Woah, you forgot a few things there! And you're the designer! Was it just modesty? There's <according to the ad!> also MIDI in/out, SMPTE in, of course the 16 bit, and the digital i/o like you mentioned, 8 times oversampling, and all that nice stuff. The SMPTE in is cool, and it says it will record a time track along with the music! That's great. Sure wish I had the HUGE HD it needs, and the $2000 to spend on it.... Oh well, maybe the AD1012 will be accesible.... Bye! David Now the world has gone to bed, MoonHawk@Bluemoon.uucp ////|all Darkness won't engulf my head, moonhawk%bluemoon@nstar.rn.com //// |hail I can see by infrared, \\\\///__|the How I hate the night. Yeah, this IS an annoying SIG. \\\\/ |miga
kcampbel@uafhp.uark.edu (Keith Alan Campbell) (06/13/91)
I mainly wanted to point out a FEW differences, the ones I considered most obvious, when I described the systems. In fact, the design philosophies of these systems differ considerably since SunRize themselves designed the AD1012, and had it mostly underway when they discovered us and our board. We were going for the professional market from the beginning, and based our efforts on the systems already in use on other computers (not the designs but the types of hardware available). There are some good articles on computer audio in the Computer Music Journal and the Journal of the Audio Engineering Society that provided guidance toward our design. We realize that the current design is too expensive for most amateur users. I am looking at a peripheral design now that will provide 16 bit audio for less cost. I don't know yet if I want it to record and playback or to be a playback only device. BTW, I, Don Kennedy, have been the person posting the articles about the sound boards. Keith is a good friend, a good "c" teacher, and handles my email on his account. Don Kennedy Audio Specialist Vision Quest Systems