[comp.sys.amiga.applications] TeX on the Amiga

gok0840a@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (KULP, GO) (01/17/91)

To all you TeX gurus

I have read your posts that TeX is so powerful, and decided to try it.
I found TeX, CommonTeX, and PasTex at various sites.
TeX and PasTeX seem to uncompress well, into directories, but CommonTeX
lost all its directory structures.

I have not been able to get any of these TeX programs to work - TeX and PTeX
both say they can't find the Plain Format File.  I see that file in the TeX
version, but not in the PTex version.  

My Questions:
1) How do I set up the directories (and assigns etc)  Can I use any of these
  programs with a hard disk?
2) The LaTeX manual we have in my department states that for the particulars
  of a certain computer system, I should see the specifics-type manual 
   that would come with the program.  I don't seem to find that with
  any of these programs.  I figure that would explain how to set up 
   the directories.  Does anyone know where to get a PD version of one?
3)  Any other hints or suggestions specific to the Amiga would be greatly
   appreciated. 

All you TeX gurus really have me worked out to try this - I hope I can soon.

Thanks Again, 
Geno Kulp
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gok0840a@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (KULP, GO) (01/17/91)

To all you TeX gurus (especially to the Amiga ones)

I have read your posts that TeX is so powerful, and decided to try it.
I found TeX, CommonTeX, and PasTex at various sites.
TeX and PasTeX seem to uncompress well, into directories, but CommonTeX
lost all its directory structures.

I have not been able to get any of these TeX programs to work - TeX and PTeX
both say they can't find the Plain Format File.  I see that file in the TeX
version, but not in the PTex version.  

My Questions:
1) How do I set up the directories (and assigns etc)  Can I use any of these
  programs with a hard disk?
2) The LaTeX manual we have in my department states that for the particulars
  of a certain computer system, I should see the specifics-type manual 
   that would come with the program.  I don't seem to find that with
  any of these programs.  I figure that would explain how to set up 
   the directories.  Does anyone know where to get a PD version of one?
3)  Any other hints or suggestions specific to the Amiga would be greatly
   appreciated. 

All you TeX gurus really have me worked out to try this - I hope I can soon.

Thanks Again, 
Geno Kulp
  -  Hmm           Hmmmmmmmmm                 Hmmmm     Hmmmm
         Hmmmmm Hm                    Hmmmm         Hmm
               Hm            Hmmm Hm Hm    Hmm                   Hmm
  - A song written just for you net.gods

TSPLIB@lure.latrobe.edu.au (Space Physics Library mail.....) (01/20/91)

G'day,

KULP, GO (gok0840a@ritvax.isc.rit.edu ) writes:

> To all you TeX gurus (especially to the Amiga ones)

I'm no Guru {well perhaps a sub-Guru, ;-)} but I have overcome some of your
problems that you note below,

> I have read your posts that TeX is so powerful, and decided to try it.
> I found TeX, CommonTeX, and PasTex at various sites.
> TeX and PasTeX seem to uncompress well, into directories, but CommonTeX
> lost all its directory structures.

I've only tried PasTeX so I'll limit myself to this package, okay?

> I have not been able to get any of these TeX programs to work - TeX and PTeX
> both say they can't find the Plain Format File.  I see that file in the TeX
> version, but not in the PTex version.  

I obtained PasTeX from `new Xanth' (i.e. ab20.larc.nasa.gov) where included
in the PasTeX-extras.zoo file (I think) in the incoming/amiga/TEX directory
is a plain.fmt file.  I _think_ the lplain.fmt file for LaTeX is _not_ with
any part of the PasTeX distribution on `new Xanth'.

At any rate, I made my own lplain.fmt file, by following the PasTeX-extras.
readme file after I snarfed a lplain.tex file (which I _think_ is PD, does
any one who knows care to fill me in?  Please see my e-mail address below),
from my local VAX TeX distribution.

You will also need the LaTeX.tex file (for initex when you make a .fmt file
for LaTeX).  You also need the lfonts.tex file for LaTeX in order to create
a LaTeX .fmt file but I think this came with the stuff I got.

> My Questions:
> 1) How do I set up the directories (and assigns etc)  Can I use any of these
>   programs with a hard disk?

I found this to be a point where I tripped up with PasTeX. The `new Xanth'
PasTeX archives contain the newest version of TeX stuff (version 3.1) and
some earlier stuff.  The earlier stuff has a different setup to the v 3.1
stuff.  They both use environment variables and are documented.  There is
also English documentation (most of PasTeX is doc'ed in German) in a file
EnglishDoc.dvi but the previewer (ShowDvi, a nice one too!) didn't show
all the text for my friend and I when we previewed it.

There is the text file EnglishDoc.tex (a LaTeX program) that is readable,
but may be a little confusing for the raw beginner (it's not TOO bad :-).

Yes, we setup the programs on a Hard Disk just fine!

> 2) The LaTeX manual we have in my department states that for the particulars
>   of a certain computer system, I should see the specifics-type manual 
>    that would come with the program.  I don't seem to find that with
>   any of these programs.  I figure that would explain how to set up 
>    the directories.  Does anyone know where to get a PD version of one?

For PasTeX I believe these are mostly in German {:-( for us non Germans}.
Perhaps your best bet is to ask in this newsgroup and later (say) in the
comp.text.tex newsgroup where _lots_ of TeX type help is available.

> 3)  Any other hints or suggestions specific to the Amiga would be greatly
>    appreciated. 

I am working up to the last part of the PasTeX installation  (when I find
time) ... that of building the fonts and/or setting up the Arexx mediated
creation of fonts as needed.  {I don't have Arexx :-( yet!}

You (unless they are already available conveniently PD etc for the Amiga)
will need to build the fonts (.tfm and PK (packed pixel bitmap data ?)).

{ The PasTeX-extras.zoo file, or 1 of the others in the `new Xanth' set }
{ also has some (a few) PK font files and .tfm files.                   }

I would appreciate _any_ help that could shorten the length of my efforts
here.

One other subjective point. TeX (or is it just LaTeX?) is slow'ish to run
for long documents on a 68000 based Amiga. I find it quite acceptable ie.
in comparison to our user loaded VAX 8800 system however :-).

{ I figure as you haven't tried it yet you might be dissapointed without }
{ a little bit of forewarning. ;-)                                       }

The previewer is much better and quicker to use than that on our VAX!

> All you TeX gurus really have me worked out to try this - I hope I can soon.

Good luck!

> Thanks Again, 
> Geno Kulp

yours truly,
Lou Cavallo.

PS: if anyone wishes to send me e-mail on this subject please try to send
    mail to U3364521@xvax.unimelb.edu.au if you can. I'm losing this acct
    today.

PS: I'm sorry if I seem vague about the details I went through with PasTeX
    but I have also (2 days later) this week setup a PD Tex & LaTeX for an
    IBM PC...  several of the problems were the same and which belonged to
    which has sort of blurred in my mind a little. Sorry.

PS: lastly, thankyou to the creators of PasTeX! So far it seems just fine.
    Now, if I can only get to finish setting it up. :-)