[comp.sys.amiga.applications] TeX vs Word

higgin@cbmvax.commodore.com (Paul Higginbottom - CATS) (01/17/91)

In article <1991Jan15.214938.13706@Neon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan J Torrie) writes:
$ [how to implement style sheets {tagging}] in TeX...
$> I can live without it though, search/replace in an editor works fine.

<Gasp> There's no need to resort to such pain.

$  Although it would perhaps be possible to do this with some
$super-duper Search/Replace function [probably involving huge regular
$expressions, and extremely complicated semantics], style sheets make
$this automatic.  Please, if you haven't seen style sheets [hell,
$they've been around for over 5 years], you really don't know what
$you're missing.

My goal in posting here isn't to recommend/promote, but just to point out
that style tagging with TeX is easy.  You define the styles you want first,
use those defined style names in your document, and then if you want to
change the overall styles, you just change the definitions,
just like with style sheets.

E.g:

\def\mysubheadstyle#1{\noindent{\bf #1}\par}
                                (bold)(new para)
Which can be used as:

\mysubheadstyle{Overview}

Which will cause the word Overview to appear on a new paragraph,
without indent, boldfaced, and subsequent text will appear in paragraphs
below.

Really not tough, although I do recognize that non-programmer types
don't want to learn codes, commands, names, etc.

And just to add gasoline to the fire, I think comparing products like
TeX and Word is futile because different folks like to work in different
ways (programs like `vi' [which I also think has merit, by the way] are proof
of this).

I generate the prettiest memos in Commodore :-).  TeX might seem massive
overkill for memos, but I've developed all my own style tags over time
and it's really very easy with \memo, \To, \Subject, etc.  I do recognize
that a lot of people can't deal with a discrepency between the way the
screen looks (as they edit it) and what comes out of the printer.  Personally,
I think AmigaTeX's previewer is just great.

	Paul.

swalton@solaria.csun.edu (Stephen Walton) (01/17/91)

In article <17673@cbmvax.commodore.com>, higgin@cbmvax (Paul
Higginbottom - CATS) writes:

>I generate the prettiest memos in Commodore :-) ... Personally,
>I think AmigaTeX's previewer is just great.

And--AmigaTeX may have just sold another Amiga.  We have a new faculty
member in our department who wants to (1) do useful work (2) run Unix
on her office computer eventually.  When I found out she was a TeX
user, I showed her AmigaTeX.  She was most impressed, perhaps enough
to turn her to an A3000 instead of the 25 MHz 386 machine she was
considering.

Steve Walton
-------------------------------
Stephen Walton, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Cal State Univ. Northridge
   I am srw@csun.edu no matter WHAT the stupid From: line says!

davidm@uunet.UU.NET (David S. Masterson) (01/18/91)

>>>>> On 16 Jan 91 16:12:31 GMT, higgin@cbmvax.commodore.com (Paul Higginbottom - CATS) said:

Paul> And just to add gasoline to the fire, I think comparing products like
Paul> TeX and Word is futile because different folks like to work in different
Paul> ways (programs like `vi' [which I also think has merit, by the way] are
Paul> proof of this).

Paul> I generate the prettiest memos in Commodore :-).  TeX might seem massive
Paul> overkill for memos, but I've developed all my own style tags over time
Paul> and it's really very easy with \memo, \To, \Subject, etc.  I do
Paul> recognize that a lot of people can't deal with a discrepency between the
Paul> way the screen looks (as they edit it) and what comes out of the
Paul> printer.  Personally, I think AmigaTeX's previewer is just great.

One of the interesting things about GNU Emacs that I'm just now learning is
that the INFO documentation on it is written in a form of TeX.  I haven't used
TeX myself yet (been overkill for what I've needed), but I find it interesting
to see hypertext documentation for a program built-in to the program and yet
you could run the documentation through a text processor and have a nice
hierarchical document on the whole program.

Anyone considered something like this in documenting their programs for the
Amiga?  It would be nice if their was a standard hypertext help system (like a
standard file requestor) that new program developers could use to write their
documentation with and users would see the same type of help environment on
every program they use.  Sort of a Thinker-type system where the developers
use full Thinker and the users see a read-only, trimmed-down Thinker.
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jwright@cfht.hawaii.edu (Jim Wright) (02/01/91)

skank@iastate.edu (Skank George L) writes:
>MB> Marc Barrett ( taab5@ccvax.iastate.edu ) writes:
>MB>   Microsoft Word is, period.  Microsoft Word, in one package, includes 
>MB> ALL the tools that you would ever need to typeset a book.  Is that powerful
>MB> enough for you?

Ah, how proud I am to have my alma mater spawn the likes of marc barret.

>Does Iowa State require that thesiis be written
>in MS Word or ISU Thesis (a TeX macro language)?  ISU Thesis.

Ye child.  Not long ago (1-3 years) even TeX was not acceptable.  Scribe
on the NAS (IBM-mainframe clone) or a typewriter was the only thing that
Mrs. Bishop would accept.  The ComSci department fought a holy war to get
TeX the status it now enjoys.

Obligatory-Amiga-Relevance-Comment: Get AmigaTeX.  I have or had access
to *many* implementations of TeX, and none compares to AmigaTeX.

--
Jim Wright
jwright@cfht.hawaii.edu
Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope Corp.

dsherif@csserv2.ic.sunysb.edu (Darin D Sheriff) (02/05/91)

(Stuff about Marc 'whiner' Barrett removed)
>Obligatory-Amiga-Relevance-Comment: Get AmigaTeX.  I have or had access
>to *many* implementations of TeX, and none compares to AmigaTeX.
>
Ok you convinced me.  Where?

>--
>Jim Wright
>jwright@cfht.hawaii.edu
>Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope Corp.


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