ckp@grebyn.com (Checkpoint Technologies) (03/30/91)
In article <1991Mar29.184119.5083@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >In article <1991Mar28.051303.4703@grebyn.com> ckp@grebyn.com (Checkpoint Technologies) writes: >> This goes with my other philosophy, about granting user account >> privileges on any computer system. The user that can reach the power >> switch has all the privileges, and you'd better get used to that. > >You can reboot the IBM-PC clone in my bedroom all you want, and unless >you bring your own O/S in with you you will not be able to defeat the >multiuser protection. I do not own a copy of MS-DOS. I do not have an >MS-DOS disk in my entire apartment. To get that data you have to walk >out with it. If I were truly interested in your data I might just carry it off. Then I can extract your hard drive, and plug it in as drive 2 of my own set up. If there are further difficulties, I get out the sector editor. (This is really speculation; I'd never actually come and raid your apartment! That would be really unfriendly and uncivilized...) You could still keep me from use of your data by encrypting it; and this assumes that you're willing to suffer the overhead of encrypting and decrypting as you use it yourself. And I still might crack it, not that I'm personally very good at that, though I have cracked a few. But best of all is to keep your data where I can't touch it. Then not only do I *not* get it, but also you get to keep it. -- First comes the logo: C H E C K P O I N T T E C H N O L O G I E S / / ckp@grebyn.com \\ / / Then, the disclaimer: All expressed opinions are, indeed, opinions. \ / o Now for the witty part: I'm pink, therefore, I'm spam! \/
koren@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Steve Koren) (03/31/91)
> That's a different issue: SIMULTANEOUS multiple users. I would
You can do this with Amigas. Just buy two of them.
Oh yeah: :-)
- stevepeter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) (04/01/91)
In article <1991Mar30.034058.12230@grebyn.com> ckp@grebyn.com (Checkpoint Technologies) writes: > If I were truly interested in your data I might just carry it off. Then I > can extract your hard drive, and plug it in as drive 2 of my own set up. > If there are further difficulties, I get out the sector editor. This is all true... if you can defeat the physical security all else is irrelevant. But there's more to physical security than access to the power switch. You need to get my data together with your software. If I can keep them apart then multiuser security is quite effective. -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>.
bneumeie@hq.af.mil (88-rx359) (04/02/91)
>In article <1991Mar29.184119.5083@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >> >>I do not own a copy of MS-DOS. I do not have an >>MS-DOS disk in my entire apartment. I would like to know if this guy has an OS and what it is? Could he possibly be one of those copyright violators?
cs326ag@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Loren J. Rittle) (04/04/91)
In article <bneumeie.670597067@sysp1> bneumeie@hq.af.mil (88-rx359) writes: >>In article <1991Mar29.184119.5083@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >>> >>>I do not own a copy of MS-DOS. I do not have an >>>MS-DOS disk in my entire apartment. > >I would like to know if this guy has an OS and what it is? Could he possibly >be one of those copyright violators? I doubt very much that Peter is a copyright violator! How on earth did you arrive at that question, pray tell? Peter has at least one OS running in his apartment--- the AmigaOS (and I'd bet UNIX also...) I'm the same way, I would not own an MS-DOS machine if it was the last OS on earth... it sucks dead ba... (you get the idea :-) Loren J. Rittle -- ``NewTek stated that the Toaster *would* *not* be made to directly support the Mac, at this point Sculley stormed out of the booth...'' --- A scene at the recent MacExpo. Gee, you wouldn't think that an Apple Exec would be so worried about one little Amiga device... Loren J. Rittle l-rittle@uiuc.edu
mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) (04/04/91)
In article <37010003@hpfcdc.HP.COM> koren@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Steve Koren) writes: > >> That's a different issue: SIMULTANEOUS multiple users. I would > >You can do this with Amigas. Just buy two of them. > >Oh yeah: :-) > > - steve What about the case of local area networks? A well thought out network for Amigas will let you mount volumes on remote machines and to run programs on remote machines... -- **************************************************** * I want games that look like Shadow of the Beast * * but play like Leisure Suit Larry. * ****************************************************