9234dwz@houxf.UUCP (The Rev. Peak) (07/15/85)
Did I hear right on saturday night ?
Did Dylan suggest that 1 or 2 million dollars of
the "Live Aid" proceeds be used to help farmers
in N.Dakota help pay their mortgages to stop
foreclosure by the banks.
The immediate aim is to allieviate people
starving to death, pure and simple !
Now down the road helping these farmers with their
mortgages MAY help in keeping low cost food
available for starving peoples but not NOW !
I think the fool was totally out of order !
I thought the "heroin 3" was a pretty tacky
lead-in to the closing number.
Dave Peak
@ !hotel!dxp
"All the net's a stage and all the men & women merely ham actors !"
- The Rev Peak frodo@wcom.UUCP (Jim Scardelis) (07/16/85)
> Did I hear right on saturday night ? > Did Dylan suggest that 1 or 2 million dollars of > the "Live Aid" proceeds be used to help farmers > in N.Dakota help pay their mortgages to stop > foreclosure by the banks. > The immediate aim is to allieviate people > starving to death, pure and simple ! Seems to me that if the farmers in N. Dakota can't pay their mortgages, and lose their farms, they are going to be starving too... > Now down the road helping these farmers with their > mortgages MAY help in keeping low cost food > available for starving peoples but not NOW ! > > I think the fool was totally out of order ! I don't think so...why should millions and millions of dollars from American Citizens be shipped off to a Marxist state with total disregard to the plight of our own citizens? 1 million is only about 2% of what Live-Aid's total receipts will be, a small amount for the distressed citizens of the country whose citizens are paying for Live-Aid. > > Dave Peak > @ !hotel!dxp > -- Jim Scardelis uucp: {vax135|ihnp4}!timeinc!wcom!frodo ARPA: 1891@NJIT-EIES.MAILNET@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA "The opinions expressed herein are those of my computer, and not necessarily those of myself, Warner Computer Systems, or any other computer or company along the line. "
wimp@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Jeff Haferman) (07/17/85)
In Response To: Dave Peak > Did I hear right on saturday night ? > Did Dylan suggest that 1 or 2 million dollars of > the "Live Aid" proceeds be used to help farmers > in N.Dakota help pay their mortgages to stop > foreclosure by the banks. Yes, you did. (Though I didn't hear North Dakota specifically mentioned) > The immediate aim is to allieviate people > starving to death, pure and simple ! Exactly. That was the purpose of Live_Aid. However, I don't think that Dylan hoped for people to actually carry through with his suggestion. Call it "food for thought." All the teeny-boppers in the audience sure- as-hell knew that people were starving somewhere in Africa, but lest we not forget that we do have some problems at home, also. > Now down the road helping these farmers with their > mortgages MAY help in keeping low cost food > available for starving peoples but not NOW ! This is silly. It will help keep food available period! For you and me and the guy down the street. "but not NOW!"?? Gee, let's wait until the banks have foreclosed all of these mortgages, then let's get concerned. What do you mean "not now?" > > I think the fool was totally out of order ! I disagree. I am a Dylan fan, but I don't always agree with what he has to say. However, being that he agreed to play at this concert would lead me to believe that he supports the idea behind it. Don't you think so? > I thought the "heroin 3" was a pretty tacky > lead-in to the closing number. I thought the closing number was going to make everyone in the room puke. The message of the song is fine, but its melody is sickening. But, Wood/Dylan/Richards were absolutely fantastic in my opinion. So some people don't like great acoustic guitar. Also, where do you get "heroin 3?" It's been suggested that Wood and Richards have done lots of heroin in the past (but they are still great musicians--> I won't compare them to K.B. or J.S.B.), but I don't think most people have ever thought of Dylan as a heroin freak. You can come up with something more creative than "heroin 3," can't you? I don't know what was so tacky about their performance. Maybe someone can explain it to me. I enjoyed the concert for the most part. Madonna was fun to see, funny to listen to, Temptations were great, Mick and Tina allright! CSNY surprising, The Who sounded pretty good. Stairway to Heaven was nice to hear, but Plant is showing his age. Complaints--> Dick Clark. Send him to Africa as food. Too many commercials. (But the Lou Reed one was great) Flame me back. I'm ready. Jeff Haferman.
nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (07/17/85)
> From: 9234dwz@houxf.UUCP (The Rev. Peak) > The immediate aim is to allieviate people starving to death, pure and > simple ! > Now down the road helping these farmers with their mortgages MAY help > in keeping low cost food available for starving peoples but not NOW ! That's right! We should ONLY invest in short-term solutions to the problem. That way, ten years from now, when the fad is over, and all the people saved today have had five kids apiece, six times as many people can starve to death! And all the efforts will have been oh so beneficial! "Chips of plutonium are twinkling in every lung" Doug Alan nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (or ARPA) P.S. What? I'm in net.music? Oh, oops. Sorry.
6243jae@whuts.UUCP (ELKINS) (07/17/85)
> But, Wood/Dylan/Richards were absolutely fantastic in my opinion. > So some people don't like great acoustic guitar. **************************************************** Dear Jeff, I am not going to flame you, but I don't think you were listening very carefully to Ron Wood and Keith Richards when they backed up Bob Dylan. Their performance as acoustic guitarists wasn't even satisfactory, even though it was nice of them to do it. How you could refer to it as "great acoustic guitar" is really beyond me, unless you are welcoming flames. They were familiar faces with unfamiliar instruments, and they sounded like it. Get a hold of a tape of the performance. It was awful. Jay Elkins whuts!6243jae
strauss@utai.UUCP (Patrick E. Strauss) (07/18/85)
> In Response To: Dave Peak > > But, Wood/Dylan/Richards were absolutely fantastic in my opinion. > So some people don't like great acoustic guitar. Also, where do > you get "heroin 3?" It's been suggested that Wood and Richards > have done lots of heroin in the past (but they are still great > musicians--> I won't compare them to K.B. or J.S.B.), but I don't > think most people have ever thought of Dylan as a heroin freak. > You can come up with something more creative than "heroin 3," can't > you? > > I don't know what was so tacky about their performance. Maybe someone > can explain it to me. > > > > Flame me back. I'm ready. > > Jeff Haferman. All the announcers were getting ready for the great 'finale' for the most star-studded concert ever. I was getting excited, expecting some really great music! THEN The three stooges stumbled onto stage, each one of them strumming one chord for the duration of fifteen minutes (I'm not even sure if they were all strumming the same chord!). Dylan's singing was not unlike a screaming cat. (Of course a very unmusical cat). The three 'dorks' (I would have preferred 'airheads', myself) had obviously never played together before this 'debut', as the two STONErS didn't know what was going on! They both had obvious spells of confusion, with their cigarettes hanging from their mouths. I think it is lovely to share these wonderful moments of musical history with 2 billion people around this great globe of ours. For many people, this is their first real glimpse of the civilized western world. (Dylan isn't stupid, of course. With such a complete lack of musical ability, one can't be stupid and become rich in the music industry) The rest of the show was great! Patrick Strauss Toronto, Canada -- Have a nice day
smithson@calma.uucp (Brian Smithson) (07/18/85)
> > From: 9234dwz@houxf.UUCP (The Rev. Peak) > > > The immediate aim is to allieviate people starving to death, pure and > > simple ! > > > Now down the road helping these farmers with their mortgages MAY help > > in keeping low cost food available for starving peoples but not NOW ! > > That's right! We should ONLY invest in short-term solutions to the > problem. That way, ten years from now, when the fad is over, and all > the people saved today have had five kids apiece, six times as many > people can starve to death! And all the efforts will have been oh so > beneficial! > ... > Doug Alan ... Yes, Doug. And we'll remember that when *you're* starving to death. (Sorry, no food, but here's a great rate on a farm mortgage in Iowa!). -- -Brian Smithson Calma Company ucbvax!calma!smithson calma!smithson@ucbvax.ARPA "Calma is a wholly-owned subsidiary of General Electric" "UNIX is a trademark of AT&T Bell Laboratories" "Your's is my heart alone" "Coke, nonetheless, isn't it"
ahg@pucc-k (mayer) (07/19/85)
In article <945@houxf.UUCP> 9234dwz@houxf.UUCP (The Rev. Peak) writes: >Did I hear right on saturday night ? >Did Dylan suggest that 1 or 2 million dollars of >the "Live Aid" proceeds be used to help farmers >in N.Dakota help pay their mortgages to stop >foreclosure by the banks. > >I think the fool was totally out of order ! > >I thought the "heroin 3" was a pretty tacky >lead-in to the closing number. > > Dave Peak > @ !hotel!dxp > Well Dave, The grim truth is that there are people starving here in the United States. I believe the point that Bob Dylan was trying to make is that perhaps we should think about our own people. Fellow Americans starving because they are unemployed or disabled. Not that we should help other people around the world, but lets not ignore problems on the home front. "The answer my friend is blowin in the wind" -- Andy Mayer Purdue University {harpo,ihnp4,allegra,decvax}!pur-ee!{pucc-h,pucc-i,pucc-k}!ahg {decwrl}purdue!pur-ee!{pucc-h,pucc-i,pucc-k}!ahg also... ....!pur-ee!mayera "THEY PELTED US WITH ROCKS AND GARBAGE!!"
wimp@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Jeff Haferman) (07/19/85)
>> But, Wood/Dylan/Richards were absolutely fantastic in my opinion. >> So some people don't like great acoustic guitar. **************************************************** > Dear Jeff, > > I am not going to flame you, but I don't think you were > listening very carefully to Ron Wood and Keith Richards when they > backed up Bob Dylan. Their performance as acoustic guitarists > wasn't even satisfactory, even though it was nice of them to do it. > How you could refer to it as "great acoustic guitar" is really > beyond me, unless you are welcoming flames. They were familiar > faces with unfamiliar instruments, and they sounded like it. Get > a hold of a tape of the performance. It was awful. > Jay Elkins Well, for the time being, I'll take back the "great" until I do hear a tape of the performance. However, I got into the performance very much even though I was watching it on a 8" BW television with thirteen other people in the room with the sound turned all the way up to the distortion level. I do know that there were some problems in the performance; I believe one of Dylan's strings broke and Ron Wood gave his guitar to Bob, is that about right? ANYWAY, let me say this Forget the guitar playing if you want to, if you're a Dylan fan (as I am), then you flipped when he opened with "When the Ship Comes In". This was the most impressive part for me, where I thought everything sounded tight, I thought Dylan was singing strong, and the Guitars sounded good. "The Ballad of Hollis Brown" was OK in my opinion, but then again, I've never been into this tune. As for "Blowin' in the Wind", this was too predictable. I thought it was a bit stale. That's all for now... Jeff