[comp.sys.amiga.advocacy] Atari is dead! Long live the Amiga

PYC136%URIACC.BITNET@brownvm.brown.edu (Andy Patrizio) (06/20/91)

Malcolm Diallo Moore <mmoore@ux.acs.umn.edu> writes:

Let me tell you, it's cool to be able to WALK to the nearest computer store and
find Amiga stuff there.  But if we don't quit messing around and sitting on our
asses, then we will find ourselves in the same situation Atarians are in.  I'm
talking about writing, thinking, all kinds of good shit.

Everybody had better really sit down and think about this, and yeah, that in-
cludes you Dave Haynie from Commodore, I know you read this net a lot, and I'm
serious, everybody here had better start waking up and get wit the program,
before there's no program to get _with_.
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Unless I read his .sig wrong, Dave Haynie is a programmer whose job is to make
a decent OS. It's the marketing department you want to bitch at. Those
"Stevie" ads were a joke...

As for decent software, blame the companies that do lousy ports. Ultima V on
the Apple II was a great game. On the Amiga it's an abortion. Same with
Wizardry V, anything by Sierra On-Line, and a lot of other sloppy ports of
IBM games.

What do you propose we do, exactly? Sell it ourselves? There are two CBM
dealers in my state, and neither is a major player. Commodore doesn't know
how to market the machine.

The reason the Amiga has sold so many machines is due to several reasons:

1) Intense word of mouth on the part of users. That's how I got lured from
the Apple IIgs. Mac was my initial choice for a new box. Then I saw the
Amiga through friends and the rest was history.

2) Commodore 64/128 users "upgrading." That's what helped Mac in the beginning
as well. Most of the initial buyers of Macs were Apple IIe owners. People
start with a company and stay with it.

3) People bought either a 1000 or 500 initially, then moved up to a 2000,
2500 or 3000. So the same person would go through several machines. The
machine/owner ratio is not the best.

I personally would hate to see the Amiga become a "mass market" machine.
It would degenerate into an oversized mess that the IBM community is.
Among the Amiga owners there is a greater sense of unity. Granted, there
is also a major inferiority complex, too. Why else do we have 8 line .sigs
blasting other computers or an entire relay dedicated to the purpose of
convincing ourselves the Amiga is so great?

But anyway, I'm happy to see the Amiga as something of a "niche" computer.
It's not for everyone, and those people it does attract I generally like
(as a user community).

.signed,

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mmoore@ux.acs.umn.edu (Malcolm Diallo Moore) (06/21/91)

In article <56696@nigel.ee.udel.edu$ PYC136%URIACC.BITNET@brownvm.brown.edu (Andy Patrizio) writes:
$Malcolm Diallo Moore <mmoore@ux.acs.umn.edu> writes:
$
$Unless I read his .sig wrong, Dave Haynie is a programmer whose job is to make
$a decent OS. It's the marketing department you want to bitch at. Those
$"Stevie" ads were a joke...
$

I'm sure Dave has his hookups with marketing.  Wanna comment on that, Dave?


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