PYC118%URIACC.BITNET@brownvm.brown.edu (Rasiel) (06/19/91)
I don't know how popular Leiser Superstores are anywhere outside of New England but here in Rhode Island and Connecticut they're all over. Although they're unfortunately one of the few electronics stores to carry Amigas I'd have to strongly recommend anyone against buying one from them. While shopping around for a CD player I noticed they had a 500 'on display'. But damnit, the damn 500 was off; and if that wasn't enough even if it were on all they had on it to show it off was a bootleg copy of Tetris. Hardly what one would consider impressive stuff. Getting kind of pissed off at the fact that it was the only one of several dozen computers that was being displayed with no power I called over one of their salesman (who, may I add, are normally obnoxiously pushy) and I played 'dumb'. I asked him if he could show me this thing off because I was ready to buy a computer right then and there (a lie of course). He then said 'Ah, poof, man! gee I dunno about them- hold on' at which time he called over another salesman. When he came and saw me looking at the computer he immediately and gratuitously told me and my girlfriend that 'omegas' are 'of very limited capabilites'. Thinking maybe I'd be hooked on something else he proceeded to tell me that they're not trained on the Amigas (which he called 'omegas') and therefore didn't know much about them. He also asked me what I was looking for and I said 'I need a computer that has good graphics, sound and animation- are you sure these are no good?'at which point he patronizingly and confidently stated that no, no, no way; that I should perhaps take a look at one of his Goldstar IBM clones. Needless to say I bought neither Amiga nor CD player and walked out leaving them two clowns in mid-sentence. Now I know I'll probably be lectured on how I shoulda stuck around and showed those people what an Amy can REALLY do but I never really liked this place much anyway. Besides, a dealer can use my bucks alot better than Leiser can and I'll be supported in return to boot. It's just that I wish that specialty stores that want to carry C= products be taught at least some fundamental things about Amigas or whatever. I'm sure that if these salesman weren't IBM-blinded they could move 500's like Ben & Jerry's ice cream at the beach. This won't happen though until the Tetris demos are replaced with Toaster demos (or at least Walker demos!) Ras, pyc118@uriacc
rkushner@sycom.UUCP (Ronald Kushner) (06/20/91)
PYC118%URIACC.BITNET@brownvm.brown.edu (Rasiel) writes: >I don't know how popular Leiser Superstores are anywhere outside of New Englan >but here in Rhode Island and Connecticut they're all over. Although they're >unfortunately one of the few electronics stores to carry Amigas I'd have to >strongly recommend anyone against buying one from them. I could say the same thing about Highland Applicance...Beware of anyplace that never stops having a "SALE SALE SALE!!" Just give them time, with the recession, they will go out of business. Highland recently pulled out of New England and Texas because of hundreds of millions of dollars in losses...Plus they sell garbage second rate equipment...Heck, everything I ever bought from stores like this (the deep discount chains that have sales 363 days a year) has always died within 2 years anyways... I will bet you the profit margins on the clones are higher, or they have a million of them piled up in a whorehouse somewhere they gotta get rid of.. Who wants a "GOLDSTAR" anyways? Is that the model they tryed to push on you?? I would have giving him my usual foreign shit spiel I always give these people. Especially when he pushes such an product with an well known foreign name tag on it...I would ask if it was dumped here below market value in their home country...Those Asian companies are good for that these days...Just look at RAM, monitors and cars...now add cheap clones to that list... Want an idea what kind of power in this country these Asian companies have? Lets say a Japanese minivan is unloaded from the boat in Long Beach, CA...Four inspectors line up to look at it. You got the guy from the Enviromental Protection Agency who looks at it and says its a truck, and will only have to meet emissions standards for U.S. trucks, which naturally are not as strict as cars. Next the guy from the National Highway Traffic Safety Adminstration, who vertifies that it is indeed a truck so it won't have the same safety devices as a car. And comes the inspector from the Department of Transportation who also agrees that the vehicle is a truck so it won't have to meet the higher fuel economy requirements of a car. But then comes the fourth inspector. He's from the Customs Service. He looks at the Japanses minivan and says, "Nope, this isn't a truck at all, it's a car!" And that means it only pays duty of 2.5 percent instead of the 25 percent duty on trucks...This sounds like Bermuda Triangle stuff, but again there's no mystery about it. It's because the $100 million dollar Japan lobby in Washington has been writing America's trade rules... I found that in a LA Times article written by Lee Iacocca....Not that I like everything he says, because he's really a socialist at heart...But the people who wrote this for him knew what they were talking about...(can we call this the Reagan syndrome?) It shows how defensive we should be towards ANY foreign products, and American products that use alot of foreign parts. Its not that these foreign companys have a soft spot in their hearts for American consumers, they want to control the market so one day they can dictate prices...So watch out for Goldstars, Hyundai, NEC, Panasonic, Sharp, Toshiba(REALLY WATCH OUT FOR THESE BASTADS, THEY SELL U.S. SECRETS TO TO SOVIETS AND BUY FORGIVENESS FROM CONGRESS FOR $49 MILLION), and others with strange names...You gotta get on Apple and Commodore's case who will get on Motorolla to get production of 680x0's out of Malaysia....Plus all the third party producers of 680x0 cards as well... I would also love to tell you to avoid Commodore monitors, but going through Computer Shopper, it looks like Goldstar, AOC, NEC, Panasonic, Samsung, and Sony allready dictate the monitor market, making it impossiable to avoid them. Its a matter of time now until they start pushing the prices up... If you wonder why I keep going on with this...You should see the unemployment lines around here. They go around the building now, and those have to be new claims, because they mail out checks now...And this isn't something new, its been like that since 1989...Heck, when the auto industry hurts, IBM hurts, because the "big three" are the largest customers of IBM, and the transplants are not going to IBM like the domestics do...And this isn't PC business, this is OTHER stuff IBM does for them...And most everyone that moved to Texas and the sun belt in the 80's have moved back because there are no jobs there either...And if you want to see what will happen to California when the Japanese totally take over the computer industry, take a tour of Detroit and imagine it without rain...Its the roadmap of the FUTURE! Take a stand now, or cry later in the unemployment line... -- C-UseNet V0.42e Ronald Kushner Life in Hell BBS +1 (313) 939-6666 P.O. Box 353 14400 USR HST V.42 & V.42bis Sterling Heights, MI 48311-0353 Complete Amiga Support UUCP: uunet!umich!vela!sycom!rkushner (We are not satanic, just NUTS!) I KNOW, I LISTEN TO MARK SCOTT
fhwri%CONNCOLL.BITNET@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (06/21/91)
At the Leiser store in Norwich CT, one of the salesmen is an Amiga FANATIC,
and was instrumental in getting the firm to carry Amigas in the first place.
The local store does a fair job in moving Amigas through the door, but they
do sell more IBM clones than Amigas. They use the Space Ace demo in Norwich,
BTW. Most Leiser customers end up coming to One Byte in Quaker Hill CT, which
has always been an Amiga dealership (since they founded in 1988) and buy
software, monitors, and Fred Fish disks (for a small copying fee, natch).
Leiser is not that great, but they are one more Amiga dealership, at least.
--Rick Wrigleydusek@motcid.UUCP (James P. Dusek) (06/22/91)
rkushner@sycom.UUCP (Ronald Kushner) writes: >million of them piled up in a whorehouse somewhere they gotta get rid of.. Who ^^^^^^^^^^ Where is this place :) Or can you expand on this line :) I too have never been impressed by Highland "Superstores". Alot of the times the can't even show poeple,or don't want to show people, how to hook up the new VCR's they sold. It seems all they want to do is sell sell sell and will offer no support on the products the sell. These places are not the place to go to buy a computer. You can not beat a dealer.(a good one that is) My dealer is always there during buiness hours to answer question, offer suggestion and order items I want. These electroic "Superstores" can care less. Once you got the itemits later sucker. Personally I would never go to these places to buy computer material unless I was 100% shure I would need NO further asssistance from them. J.Dusek
rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) (06/23/91)
In article <56844@nigel.ee.udel.edu> fhwri%CONNCOLL.BITNET@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu writes: >At the Leiser store in Norwich CT, one of the salesmen is an Amiga FANATIC, >and was instrumental in getting the firm to carry Amigas in the first place. >The local store does a fair job in moving Amigas through the door, but they >do sell more IBM clones than Amigas. They use the Space Ace demo in Norwich, >BTW. Most Leiser customers end up coming to One Byte in Quaker Hill CT, which >has always been an Amiga dealership (since they founded in 1988) and buy >software, monitors, and Fred Fish disks (for a small copying fee, natch). >Leiser is not that great, but they are one more Amiga dealership, at least. There was a Leiser store in Westboro, Mass that pushed the Amiga 500. They had a good amount of software for sale, and they had machines up and running. Unfortunately, the slow economy and massive competition put them out of business. The Framingham Mass area has way too many appliance stores competing for a stale market. Rick Kelly rmk@rmkhome.UUCP frog!rmkhome!rmk rmk@frog.UUCP