reynaldo@athena.mit.edu (Rey Villarreal) (05/03/91)
Someone please send me a list of the educational bundles and their prices .
es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) (05/03/91)
OK: Here it is. The educational price list. Note: Institutions, such as schools, museums and libraries are eligible for cheaper prices. Note2: Employees of museums and libraries are ALSO eligible for these prices. Note3: Peripherals CAN be purchased separately MODEL PRICE ----- ----- A500P $ 531 A2000 $1,164 A2000HD $1,455 A2500/30 $2,766 A2500/100 $3,239 A3000-16/50 $2,183 A3000-25/50 $2,547 A3000-25/100 $3,421 A3000UX-B $4,003 A3000UX-D $5,095 A3070 Tape Drive $ 812 A1084S $ 282 A1930 (VGA only) $ 415 A1950 $ 520 A2024 $ 542 A501 $ 66 A2058 (2/8MB) $ 258 A1011 $ 141 A2010 $ 112 A590 (20MB HD) $ 444 A2091 $ 147 A2091-50 $ 553 A1680 (1200 baud) $ 44 A520 $ 35 A2060 (Arcnet) $ 158 A2065 (Ethernet) $ 241 A2630/4 $1,329 A2088D $ 369 A2286 $ 590 AS2232 (7 serial port) $ 282 A2300 (genlock) $ 125 A10 (speakers) $ 28 A2320 (deinterlacer) $ 212 AS260 (8SVX sounds) $ 21 AS225 (TCP/IP - NFS) $ 140 AS250 (AmigaVision) $ 81 MPS 1270 (InkJet) $ 193 MPS 1230 (NLQ Dot) $ 184 -- Ethan "Brain! Brain! What is Brain?"
joem@nos850.UUCP (Joe Muller) (05/04/91)
In article <1991May3.004839.20833@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes: >A2500/30 $2,766 ^^^^^ >A3000-25/50 $2,547 ^^^^^ Whoa! I like my 2500/30 and all, but I never considered it BETTER than a 3000-25/50. After all, I don't have 2.0 or ECS. How are those prices justified ? uunet!coplex!nos850!joem
es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) (05/05/91)
In article <285@nos850.UUCP> joem@nos850.UUCP (Joe Muller) writes: >In article <1991May3.004839.20833@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes: > > >>A2500/30 $2,766 > ^^^^^ >>A3000-25/50 $2,547 > ^^^^^ > Whoa! I like my 2500/30 and all, but I never considered it BETTER >than a 3000-25/50. After all, I don't have 2.0 or ECS. How are those >prices justified ? > >uunet!coplex!nos850!joem The 2500 costs more because it has so much expansion. -- Ethan "Brain! Brain! What is Brain?"
<DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu> (05/05/91)
In article <1991May4.195627.4389@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) says: > The 2500 costs more because it has so much expansion. There you go again with your unfounded "expansion slots are expensive" theory. :-) Look, you can get AT motherboards with heaps of slots for $80. For case/power supply add $100. That's quantity one from some small clone outfit. There are a few valid reasons for not having expansion: 1. It makes the computer smaller. But if you add things, it makes the computer bigger again (like the 64 with lots of peripherals). 2. It is easier to design and doesn't have support headaches of "card X doesn't work with card Y in my computer". Also known as laziness. 3. The computer is so cheap that it makes a big difference. Slots would be an expensive (relatively) addition to the ZX81. 4. It is fashionable. And anyway, the 3000 is probably more expandible than the 2000, all things considered. -- Dan Babcock
es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) (05/05/91)
In article <91124.202253DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu> DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu writes: >In article <1991May4.195627.4389@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, >es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) says: > >> The 2500 costs more because it has so much expansion. > >There you go again with your unfounded "expansion slots are expensive" >theory. :-) Look, you can get AT motherboards with heaps of slots for >$80. For case/power supply add $100. That's quantity one from some >small clone outfit. There are a few valid reasons for not having >expansion: Ok! Then you explain it! 8-) Everything else about the 3000 is either the same or better, yet the 2500 costs more. That leaves expandability. It does cost MORE. I'm not saying how much more, but I don't think it unreasonable to say $50. The 2000 has 9 slots and three drive bays, including a 5 1/4". The 3000 has 5 clots and three drive bays. The 2000 is also much larger and I believe has a stronger power supply. In the end, that costs SOMETHING, the question is what it is. >And anyway, the 3000 is probably more expandible than the 2000, all things >considered. > You can't add as much to the 3000 as to the 2000, but certainly the 3000 does start further in front. >-- Dan Babcock -- Ethan "Brain! Brain! What is Brain?"
IP06106@PORTLAND.BITNET (05/06/91)
In article <91124.202253DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>, DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu says: > >In article <1991May4.195627.4389@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, >es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) says: > >> The 2500 costs more because it has so much expansion. > >There you go again with your unfounded "expansion slots are expensive" >theory. :-) Look, you can get AT motherboards with heaps of slots for There's a much better reason for the price difference.. the A2500/30 comes with 5 megs of ram, the A3000/25-50 comes with 2 megs... +-- Graham Kinsey IP06106@Portland.CAPS.Maine.edu P/Link: G KINSEY --+ | You know, computers are just like ST:TNG.... | | Amiga == Wesley (Brilliant kid, but whines too much) | +------------------ (with apologies to Eric Giguere) ------------------+
bscott@isis.cs.du.edu (Ben Scott) (05/07/91)
In article <1991May5.014745.5260@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes: >>There you go again with your unfounded "expansion slots are expensive" > > Ok! Then you explain it! 8-) Everything else about the The 3000 is much cheaper to build, since it is smaller (which also makes it cheaper to package and ship) and was designed more recently so the experience gained over the years comes into play. For example, they don't socket the '030 and '882 (which costs more than most think). Also, Commodore has a much greater incentive to sell 3000s than 2500s, so they aren't working as hard to keep the price low on 2500s. At least, this is my theory. On the other hand, it is common that once the development costs are covered by sales, prices drop radically (witness the recent near-50% cut in price of the 2091, for example). One would think that the 2500 has long passed this point, and the 3000 is not even close yet. ?? . <<<<Infinite K>>>> -- |Ben Scott, professional goof-off and consultant at The Raster Image, Denver| |Internet bscott@isis.cs.du.edu, or call the Arvada 68K BBS at (303)424-6208| | "All syllogisms have three parts... || The Raster Image IS responsible | | Therefore this is not a syllogism." || for everything I say! | *Amiga* |
m0154@tnc.UUCP (GUY GARNETT) (05/07/91)
The A2500/30 costs more than an A3000 because you can drop a toaster into the 2500. If you want 68030 horsepower for lightwave, toasterpaint, or just running the toaster, then C= will make you pay for it. The A2500 is probably a more expensive machine to manufacture, too. Wildstar
monty@sagpd1 (05/08/91)
In article <812@tnc.UUCP> m0154@tnc.UUCP (GUY GARNETT) writes: > >The A2500/30 costs more than an A3000 because you can drop a toaster >into the 2500. If you want 68030 horsepower for lightwave, >toasterpaint, or just running the toaster, then C= will make you pay >for it. Woa... Wait a minute bucko... The A2500/030 COST MORE TO PRODUCE.. so therefore sells for more. ...NEWTEK.... made a conscious decision to make thier board only fit into the A2000 as they need the room for the layout! ...NEWTEK... is the one making you buy the more expensive form factor because they could not design the toaster to the specs of the machine that they were building it for. Do you see the trend here... NEWTEK..... not Commodore made the toaster A2000 only compatible. Flame NEWTEK not C=. Monty Saine > >The A2500 is probably a more expensive machine to manufacture, too. > >Wildstar
kent@vf.jsc.nasa.gov (05/08/91)
In article <812@tnc.UUCP>, m0154@tnc.UUCP (GUY GARNETT) writes: > > The A2500/30 costs more than an A3000 because you can drop a toaster > into the 2500. If you want 68030 horsepower for lightwave, > toasterpaint, or just running the toaster, then C= will make you pay > for it. > The toaster will work in the A3000. It requires the old denise and you have to jury rig the case a bit to make it fit. This not the best way to manage it, but until Newtek modifies the toaster for the 3000 it will have to do. -- Mike Kent - Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Company at NASA JSC 2400 NASA Rd One, Houston, TX 77058 (713) 483-3791 KENT@vf.jsc.nasa.gov