dmarten@nmsu.edu (MARTEN) (01/22/91)
I am trying to use one of these Atari ST emulators I have, but cannot get started because I can not copy Amiga files to the Atari ST format. So my question: Is there any PD program out there that can do this? I know that Dos2Dos will do it if you have the full blown version, the PD version will only read. What I would really like, is to find the prameters of the Atari ST format to use with MSH. If anybody knows of the MSH prameters, please let me know. Thanks in advance... dmarten@dante.nmsu.edu or dmarten@helen.nmsu.edu
glmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt Crowd) (01/22/91)
In article <480@opus.NMSU.Edu> dmarten@nmsu.edu (MARTEN) writes: > > I am trying to use one of these Atari ST emulators I have, but cannot get >started because I can not copy Amiga files to the Atari ST format. >So my question: Is there any PD program out there that can do this? >I know that Dos2Dos will do it if you have the full blown version, the PD >version will only read. >What I would really like, is to find the prameters of the Atari ST format >to use with MSH. If anybody knows of the MSH prameters, please let me know. > >Thanks in advance... > >dmarten@dante.nmsu.edu > or >dmarten@helen.nmsu.edu Since the Atari ST can rad IBM disks directly, format a disk to 720k using the messyformat? program and then copy the files to it using msh. Matt Crowd.
rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) (01/22/91)
In article <480@opus.NMSU.Edu>, dmarten@nmsu.edu (MARTEN) writes: > I am trying to use one of these Atari ST emulators I have, but cannot get > started because I can not copy Amiga files to the Atari ST format. > So my question: Is there any PD program out there that can do this? > I know that Dos2Dos will do it if you have the full blown version, the PD > version will only read. > What I would really like, is to find the prameters of the Atari ST format > to use with MSH. If anybody knows of the MSH prameters, please let me know. An ST disk is exactly the same format as IBM disks, so all you need to be able to do is read an IBM Disk. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ryan 'Gozar' Collins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ o__)\ rlcollins@miavx1.BITNET / ) RC1DSANU@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu / / ____ R.COLLINS1 (On GEnie) /(____/__(_) o)_/ /) [ || ] Atari Computers, "There is no Substitute." [ || ] They're not just Vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er geniryvat // || \\ for breakfast gbb pybfr! // || \\ anymore ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Yea, right, thats what I said.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
lsmichae@informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Lars Michael (AKBP WS 1990)) (01/23/91)
rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) writes: >In article <480@opus.NMSU.Edu>, dmarten@nmsu.edu (MARTEN) writes: >> I am trying to use one of these Atari ST emulators I have, but cannot get >> started because I can not copy Amiga files to the Atari ST format. >> So my question: Is there any PD program out there that can do this? >> I know that Dos2Dos will do it if you have the full blown version, the PD >> version will only read. >> What I would really like, is to find the prameters of the Atari ST format >> to use with MSH. If anybody knows of the MSH prameters, please let me know. >An ST disk is exactly the same format as IBM disks, so all you need to be >able to do is read an IBM Disk. That's wrong for TOS Versions older than the Rainbow TOS: The TOS format is *not* exactly the same as the MS DOS format. The media deskriptor byte is different. This byte is used by MS DOS but ignored by TOS. That's why an ATARI can read an write PC disks but a PC can't even read a TOS disk. The TOS Versions V1.04 (Rainbow TOS) and higher Versions (STE TOS and TT TOS) use the original deskriptor byte used by MS DOS. Lars
rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) (01/24/91)
In article <1991Jan23.094835.6676@informatik.uni-erlangen.de>, lsmichae@informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Lars Michael (AKBP WS 1990)) writes: > rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) writes: >>An ST disk is exactly the same format as IBM disks, so all you need to be >>able to do is read an IBM Disk. > > That's wrong for TOS Versions older than the Rainbow TOS: > The TOS format is *not* exactly the same as the MS DOS format. > The media deskriptor byte is different. This byte is used by MS DOS but > ignored by TOS. That's why an ATARI can read an write PC disks but a PC > can't even read a TOS disk. > > The TOS Versions V1.04 (Rainbow TOS) and higher Versions (STE TOS and TT TOS) > use the original deskriptor byte used by MS DOS. So the correct solution is to have the ST friend upgrade to TOS 1.4 :*) Seriously though, just format the disk in IBM format on your Amiga. (BTW, on my roomates Zenith it wt will read ST disks that were formatted with 1.0. (I've got 1.4 now) But is Zenith would also read extended file formats, including 80 tracks with 10 sectors. (809K)) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ryan 'Gozar' Collins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ o__)\ rlcollins@miavx1.BITNET / ) RC1DSANU@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu / / ____ R.COLLINS1 (On GEnie) /(____/__(_) o)_/ /) [ || ] Atari Computers, "There is no Substitute." [ || ] They're not just Vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er geniryvat // || \\ for breakfast gbb pybfr! // || \\ anymore ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Yea, right, thats what I said.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) (01/25/91)
>In article <1991Jan23.094835.6676@informatik.uni-erlangen.de>, lsmichae@informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Lars Michael (AKBP WS 1990)) writes: >> rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) writes: >>>An ST disk is exactly the same format as IBM disks, so all you need to be >>>able to do is read an IBM Disk. >> --->Stuff Deleted<--- >So the correct solution is to have the ST friend upgrade to TOS 1.4 :*) >Seriously though, just format the disk in IBM format on your Amiga. Well, an even better solution is to purchase dos-2-dos, which reads both IBM and ATARI ST disks and lets you copy Atari<->amiga \IBM/ If you catch my drift.. I have a really old version, 1.6, or something, but, that's cool for me... so, it'll do what you want better than formatting it IBM only. Monitor of comp.sys.amiga.emulations -jeremy -- E Pluribus // Contacts: jeremym@brahms.udel.edu or jeremym@chopin.udel.edu or Unix // jeremy@freezer.it.udel.edu (line 1 = jeremym) \\ // --->Monitor of comp.sys.amiga.emulations<--- \X/ 2001 Dalmations - My stars, its full of dogs...