4225_5105@uwovax.uwo.ca ( magundi ) (03/16/91)
For sale 10 disks of Mac Software in Amax format Many utilities, cdevs, inits, applications, games and also system 6.0.5 disks. $20
jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) (03/16/91)
In article <1991Mar15.175201.8811@uwovax.uwo.ca> 4225_5105@uwovax.uwo.ca ( magundi ) writes: >For sale > >10 disks of Mac Software in Amax format >Many utilities, cdevs, inits, applications, games >and also system 6.0.5 disks. > >$20 As Monitor of this group, I cannot allow you to sell this.. especially on my board.. for instance, the system 6.0.5 is illegal to sell mah friend, and I am asking you polietely to cancel this article at once, and I urge all of you NOT to buy any software that *IS* infact already IN amax format. This is illegal besides immoral. I cannot condone it, and I will not have it. Please cancel your article. Monitor of comp.sys.amiga.emulations -jeremy -- E Pluribus // Contacts: jeremym@brahms.udel.edu or jeremym@chopin.udel.edu or Unix // jeremym@freezer.acs.udel.edu -amiga clasic 2000- \\ // --->Monitor of comp.sys.amiga.emulations<--- \X/ 2001 Dalmations - My stars, its full of dogs...
orovner@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Oleg Rovner) (03/17/91)
Pardon my ignorance, but what the heck is a "monitor" of a newsgroup? Is c.s.a.emulations moderated? (I thought it wasn't, but let me check onmy copy of the ballot). OR -- ******************************************************************** Escape, Where's Escape? Goddamn It! I need escape -a student looking for the escape key at the student computer center at UCSD ********************************************************************
watters@arc.cis.ohio-state.edu (david r watters) (03/17/91)
In article <16676@chopin.udel.edu> jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) writes: >In article 4225_5105@uwovax.uwo.ca ( magundi ) writes: >>For sale >> >>10 disks of Mac Software in Amax format >>Many utilities, cdevs, inits, applications, games >>and also system 6.0.5 disks. >As Monitor of this group, I cannot allow you to sell this.. especially >on my board.. for instance, the system 6.0.5 is illegal to sell >mah friend, and I am asking you polietely to cancel this >article at once, and I urge all of you NOT to buy any software >that *IS* infact already IN amax format. >This is illegal besides immoral. > >I cannot condone it, and I will not have it. Please cancel your >article. While it is wrong to sell a copy of Apple's system disk (amax format is a copy) It is usually NOT wrong to sell a disk containing PD, FreeWare, ShareWare, and misc. data in Amax format for some media fee and copying fee. This totally depends on the copyright notice of the software contained on the amax format disk and most say there will be no fee accessed except media cost and a small copying fee. 9 disk at about $3 a disk is $27, so I think his $20 price can be considered a small copying fee. I do not believe it is the monitors job to play mommy, and say things like "I know how to get rid of the Amax_II disk icon on WorkBench." and then NOT tell anyone. Or "I will not have this.." I do believe this original article belonged in comp.sys.amiga.marketplace. ps. Who's newgroup (board) is this????? :-\ -Dave -=- "All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars. All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars!" - RUSH David watters@cis.ohio-state.edu "It's 12:35... and Michigan STILL sucks." _-_-_-__---_---_---__-_-_-____ TurboExpress : The Neo*Geo of portables _____
macdona@obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (magundi ( John A A MacDonald )) (03/18/91)
In article <16676@chopin.udel.edu> jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) writes: >In article <1991Mar15.175201.8811@uwovax.uwo.ca> 4225_5105@uwovax.uwo.ca ( magundi ) writes: >>For sale >> >>10 disks of Mac Software in Amax format >>Many utilities, cdevs, inits, applications, games >>and also system 6.0.5 disks. >> >>$20 > > >As Monitor of this group, I cannot allow you to sell this.. especially >on my board.. for instance, the system 6.0.5 is illegal to sell >mah friend, and I am asking you polietely to cancel this >article at once, and I urge all of you NOT to buy any software >that *IS* infact already IN amax format. Why NOT?? Not ANY software? >This is illegal besides immoral. IS IT??? Illegal? Immoral?? read on. >I cannot condone it, and I will not have it. Please cancel your >article. nope But I will modify it. four of the disks were the MAC system disks, The other 6 are Public Domain programs. Nothing illegal in selling PD software at least. Certainly nothing immoral about selling PD software in AMAX format. I am charging a very low copying fee for the PD software. As far as even using the MAC software on the Amiga it is illegal, at least as far as Apple is concerned. The possible exception being that you own a MAC and you have transfered the ROM's into AMAX and use it to run MAC programs instead of your MAC. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- extracted from my Macintosh System Software User's Guide. This manual and the software described in it are copyrighted, with all rights reserved. Under the copyright laws, this manual or the software may not be copied, in whole or part, without written consent of Apple, except in the normal use of the software or to make a backup copy of the software. The same proprietary and copyright notices must be affixed to any permitted copies as were affixed to the original. This exception does not allow copies to be made for others, whether or not sold, but all of the material purchased ( with all backup copies ) may be sold, given, or loaned to another person. Under the law, copying includes translating into another language or format. You may use the software on any computer owned by you, but extra copies cannot be made for this purpose. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sounds to me like having anything about Amax in a newsgroup is condoning illegal activity. Because unless you own a Mac, having the system software is pirating software from APPLE. I strongly suggest that we all stopping talking about AMAX because we are condoning piracy. But seriously, at almost any Apple dealer you can take some disks and get copies of the MAC system software for free. They do have the right to ask you for your original system disks to verify that you do have the right to the software. The dealer also has the right to charge a nominal copying fee. This fee does not go to APPLE. The latest system software is also available for anonymous FTP, though you need a real MAC to use APPLES equivalent of WARP. I have tried and running AMAX I could un BINHEX, and UNSTUFF the files, but could every time I used apples diskcopy program to put the software on disk, it crashed or hung. Besides 6.0.7 which is available on APPLE.COM doesn't like AMAX. By offering disks in AMAX format I am just trying to make it easy for people who do not have a MAC DRIVE connected up to AMAX. All the software that I am offering is available via FTP. But unless you already have the programs I am offering ( communications, archival ) you will not be able to get the programs onto AMAX. I am not going to make much money, I buy new MAXELL disks for $15 + 15% tax, and a couple of dollars to ship the disks. john macdonald 4225_5105@hydra.uwo.ca
drz@po.CWRU.Edu (David R. Zinkin) (03/19/91)
In a previous message, macdona@obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (magundi ( John A A MacDonald )) says: > The latest system >software is also available for anonymous FTP, though you need a real MAC >to use APPLES equivalent of WARP. I have tried and running AMAX I could >un BINHEX, and UNSTUFF the files, but could every time I used apples >diskcopy program to put the software on disk, it crashed or hung. Besides >6.0.7 which is available on APPLE.COM doesn't like AMAX. Does every AMAX owner have this problem? There *is* another way to access the files on those "disks" on apple.com. Check the FTP archives at SUMEX (sumex-aim.stanford.edu or 36.44.0.6) in the directory /info-mac/cdev. You'll find an INIT/cdev called "MountImage". Put it in your System Folder and reboot, and you'll be able to use the Control Panel to "mount" the image files as if they were real disks. You can then format other floppies with the same names as the "disk" images, and copy the files from the images to the real floppies. I don't see how this should fail. But then, I'm a Mac owner, not an AMAX owner; I'm just trying to help. -- Dave Zinkin -- David Zinkin -- Case Western Reserve University (Student) and Rochester General Hospital Radiology Dept. (Consultant) "If we dream it, it can be done." -- Bob Anastas, founder of SADD
macdona@obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (magundi ( John A A MacDonald )) (03/19/91)
In article <17617@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> cs166wbq@sdcc8.ucsd.edu writes: >In article <17571@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> orovner@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Oleg Rovner) writes: >>Pardon my ignorance, but what the heck is a "monitor" of a >>newsgroup? >> >>Is c.s.a.emulations moderated? (I thought it wasn't, but >>let me check onmy copy of the ballot). > > >Some clown crowns himself as the "monitor" of this group. You can >just as well ignore him. Hee hee hee hee hee :-)