[comp.sys.amiga.emulations] MONTITOR'S POST - AMAX II WITHOUT ANNONYING ICONS!!!

jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) (03/19/91)

Well.. I know there are pirate versions of AMAX running around
there... and I know many of you have hacked the ROMS, and then
deviously passed them on to friends. I cant do  much
to prevent you from doing this - except to hope that this wont
continue. 

Apple, in my opinion, really should relenquish their hold on Mac
Roms.. but, in any case, here goes: 

***THE WAY TO CREAT AN AMAX1: partition and
   how to MOUNT AMAX II WITHOUT THAT ANNOYING ndos:|| icon**

Now, I have a trumpcard and a 40 meg and a 105 quantum right now,
the 40 is gone tomorrow, so 105 is what its currently set at.

To be safe, I'll say that this will vary from system to system, but
I really cant see why... if you can follow my directions, you should have an 
Icon-less AMAX II.

DISCLAIMER: Look - I'm an Amiga Hacker just like you and trial and
error is where its at for us.. so... please, if you screw it
up then thats your tough noogies... Also.. I make no claims
that this'll work .. .only that this is what I did, and hey,
I didnt get this job for nothing.

First... you know you better do the old saying:

BACK UP YOUR HARD DRIVE or PAY THE CONSEQUENCES OF BEING
DRAGGED TO HELL BY AT's and PS/2's.

OKey.. btw: YOU HAVE to back up, because you're gonna want to put the
data back on... and in the next step or two.. we're gonna re-format
your hard drive WIPING OFF THE DATA!!

The next steps are for people who HAVENT GOTTEN ANY AMAX: partition
on their HD... skip this if you have this knowledge:

	Get up your HD utilities formatting software and repartition
	your HD so that you have a significant chunk of AMAX space..
	I had 5 megs on my 40 megger and now I have 15 on my 105.
	
	Now... make your normal partitions.. DH0: DH1: DH2: whatever..
	then... 
	
	TYPE I.
 ********************	
	If your software will ALLOW you to change the
	PHYSICAL NAME of the disk (ie: dh0:, dh1:, etc..) then
	make a partition called AMAX1:.
	The trumpcard utiltites *WILL* let you do this. I hear
	Supra, will not. 
*****TYPE II****
	
	If your software DOES NOT support this feature, call it
	DHx or ie: the next dhx in the sequence. We'll fix this later.

***TYPE I & II****
	Okey...DO NOT AMIGADOS FORMAT THIS PARTITION!!!
	-----------------------------------------------
	Ahem... let me say that again, for emphesis!!


	Okey...DO NOT AMIGADOS FORMAT THIS PARTITION!!!
	-----------------------------------------------

	Got it? good.. Simply make the drive in the mountlist...
	just be sure there's nothing there to begin with
	and you're cool.

	If you are running TYPE II then edit your mountlist,
	so that when you find DHx,: (the one we're gonna make AMAX1)
	you fix it so it gets to be AMAX1:

	Got it? Good.

Now, we're cookin... boot up yer amax II (ahem.. not pirated, I imagine..)

It will say... You're drive is basically braindead.. would you like to format
it.. you say DA! or YES! OR SI! or KEN! or anything... just
do it... It will.. and vwallah... you have an AMAX1: partition...
 
The trick is, now, how do you get that crappy little icon to go away
when you are in workbench?

EASY! DONT MOUNT IT!!!! DUH!

Look.. I have it like this... I am using a VERY teeny program
called clixecute which detects if you are holding the left-mouse
button ON BOOTUP. PUT THIS THE FIRST THING IN YOUR S-sequence!!!

If yes.. it'll execute a program called s:leftbutton, where,
you have the following script:

mount amax1:
amaxii-startup (or whatever it's called)

and then, you're in the clear.. no icon no mess no hassle... you're set!

 
So, wheneever you feel the need to laugh at a mac, simply HOLD 
down your left mouse button on BOOTUP. You'll be up and running in no
time.. as you dont have the rest of the startup sequence to contend with...

 So play until your hard drive goes through some major crash in three months..
 but in the meantime.... dont spin harddrives on a lanoleam floor
 without proper waxing!!!

 Monitor of comp.sys.amiga.emulations
  -jeremy


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JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) (03/22/91)

>(long involved way to get rid of the AMAX icon on a Trumpcard)

I tried in the past to do something just like this with my A2091.
Try as I might, I was unable to get it to work.  I finally got in
contact with some folks in the know at Commodore.  They essentially
told me it cannot be done with a Commodore automounting device.
The A2091 is designed to be automounting... period.  If you don't
tell it to automount a partition, that partion cannot be mounted;
period.  There is no mountlist you can use to mount a 2091 partion
that was not automounted.

Again, this was told me by the good folks at C=, so I've just learned
to live with the AMAX icon on my workbench.  Once you get used to it,
it's really not all that bothersome.   ;-)

                                                            Kurt
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cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt Crowd) (03/22/91)

In article <91080.210908JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu> JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) writes:
>>(long involved way to get rid of the AMAX icon on a Trumpcard)
>
>I tried in the past to do something just like this with my A2091.
>Try as I might, I was unable to get it to work.  I finally got in
>contact with some folks in the know at Commodore.  They essentially
>told me it cannot be done with a Commodore automounting device.
>The A2091 is designed to be automounting... period.  If you don't

You can get this to work provided you are running AmigaDOS 2.0.
There is no need to `mount' an A-Max partition before starting A-Max
with the 2091 controller! I assume that your partition workes o.k.
If so, then follow these easy steps.....

Note : Make a BACKUP in a-max using a Mac backup tool first! BEFORE
       attempting this process...... I will not be made responsible
       for any damages incurred......

1.	Load C='s hard disk tool box.    

2.	Click on your A-Max partition then select Change File System.

3.	Change the File System for the partition from FastFileSystem
  	or whatever it is, to RESERVED.

4.	Return to the Main Screen and select `save changes', a requester
	will pop up with `The following action will delete the partition
	A-Max1' etc. Ignore this message and select continue.

5.	The computer will now reset and once you get going again the
	Icon will no longer be there.

Matt Crowd                       Editor : Reef Amigans Disk Mag.
cpmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au                   Townsville, Australia.

maxc1503@ucselx.sdsu.edu (David Tse) (03/23/91)

JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) writes:
>I tried in the past to do something just like this with my A2091.
>Try as I might, I was unable to get it to work.  I finally got in
>contact with some folks in the know at Commodore.  They essentially
>told me it cannot be done with a Commodore automounting device.
>The A2091 is designed to be automounting... period.  If you don't
>tell it to automount a partition, that partion cannot be mounted;
>period.  There is no mountlist you can use to mount a 2091 partion
>that was not automounted.
>Again, this was told me by the good folks at C=, so I've just learned
>to live with the AMAX icon on my workbench.  Once you get used to it,
>it's really not all that bothersome.   ;-)

That's what I figured out when I studied the AMaxII manual and the Amiga
manual. I actually bought Jeremy's idea of not mounting it in the beginning.
But in automounting drive, it cannot be done. He is nice to give us the tips
but not stating that not all drives are not automounting and not be done.
No flames to anybody, just to clear things up for people with automounting
drives and still wondering about the magic method to get rid of the icons.

>                                                            Kurt
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>|| 184 W. Valley Hill Rd.       || deny it's what the fighting's       ||
>|| Malvern, PA 19355-2214       || all about?    -  Pink Floyd         ||
>||  jkt100@psuvm.psu.edu         --------------------------------------||
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David

rbabel@babylon.rmt.sub.org (Ralph Babel) (03/23/91)

In article <1991Mar23.013621.23534@ucselx.sdsu.edu>,
maxc1503@ucselx.sdsu.edu (David Tse) writes:

>> The A2091 is designed to be automounting... period.  If
>> you don't tell it to automount a partition, that partion
>> cannot be mounted; period.  There is no mountlist you can
>> use to mount a 2091 partion that was not automounted.
>
> That's what I figured out when I studied the AMaxII manual
> and the Amiga manual. I actually bought Jeremy's idea of
> not mounting it in the beginning. But in automounting
> drive, it cannot be done. He is nice to give us the tips
> but not stating that not all drives are not automounting
> and not be done. No flames to anybody, just to clear
> things up for people with automounting drives and still
> wondering about the magic method to get rid of the icons.

I use half of an 80-meg Quantum for A-Max II.

The Quantum is connected to a GVP Series-II HC.

The GVP Series-II HC performs automounting, of course.

I simply didn't create an RDB entry for this partition.

I could also have set the PBFF_NOMOUNT flag.

I mount this partition using "Mount" right before starting A-Max.

So what's the problem?

Ralph

jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) (03/24/91)

In article <1991Mar23.013621.23534@ucselx.sdsu.edu> maxc1503@ucselx.sdsu.edu (David Tse) writes:
>JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) writes:
>>I tried in the past to do something just like this with my A2091.
>>Try as I might, I was unable to get it to work.  I finally got in
>>contact with some folks in the know at Commodore.  They essentially
>>told me it cannot be done with a Commodore automounting device.
>>The A2091 is designed to be automounting... period.  If you don't

>That's what I figured out when I studied the AMaxII manual and the Amiga
>manual. I actually bought Jeremy's idea of not mounting it in the beginning.
>But in automounting drive, it cannot be done. He is nice to give us the tips
>but not stating that not all drives are not automounting and not be done.
>No flames to anybody, just to clear things up for people with automounting
>drives and still wondering about the magic method to get rid of the icons.
>
>>||  jkt100@psuvm.bitnet  jkt100%psuvm.bitnet@psuvax1  QLink: KurtTappe ||


WEll.. I hadn't known about the 2091 being 100% automounting. Thanks
for the tip... Hm... see, I've only had my trumpcard, so, it
seemed like the logical way to go. 
 
People have asked me, "Why dont you just attach a script to 
an icon and have it execute that script?"

I tell them that the reason is because you never know what memory 
is going where except at the very beginning. Take Gomf2.0 for instance.
Amax I and  II will not run when this is already installed, thats
why I have it call it up at the beginning...
 
I'm sorry if I mislead any of you - but, what i did DOES work
for those non-automounting systems... Someone made a terrific
suggestion, though, how to do it in 2.0... so, when I get a
chance I'll see if I can try it out...
 
Sorry, again.
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watters@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (david r watters) (03/25/91)

In article <06831.AA06831@babylon.rmt.sub.org> cbmvax.commodore.com!cbmehq!babylon!rbabel (Ralph Babel) writes:

>I use half of an 80-meg Quantum for A-Max II.
>The Quantum is connected to a GVP Series-II HC.
>The GVP Series-II HC performs automounting, of course.
>I simply didn't create an RDB entry for this partition.
>I could also have set the PBFF_NOMOUNT flag.
>I mount this partition using "Mount" right before starting A-Max.

This is exactly what you should do with the 2091. Using the nicer software. :-)

>So what's the problem?

Along those lines.... Why does this group have a monitor... was it in the vote?
And how do we get rid of it?

Dave

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