hastoerm@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Moriland) (01/31/91)
A while back on C.S.A someone asked about FidoNet capable BBS software for the Amiga and I commented that one should avoid Paragon BBS by Inner Circle Software as promised support was missing. I would like to take a moment to retract that statement as recently Eric Drewry has taken over the job of support from Jon Radoff and has been pumping out new versions with most of the major bugs quashed again making Paragon worth looking at for your FidoNet compatable needs. As a long time Paragon owner, I must say that I like the software and what is held promise of and only warned others away because of the lack of support. If anyone is interested, I will post a summary of the software's capabilities. --Moriland -- | hastoerm@vela.acs.oakland.edu | __ | | | __/// Viva Amiga! | | Founder Of: Evil Young | \XX/ | | Mutants For A Better Tomorrow | "Single Tasking: JUST SAY NO!" |
jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) (01/31/91)
I'm pretty dern happy with Paragon as well. No kludges like Skyline or CNet to get it to run FIDO... :) -- John M. Adams --***-- Professional Student /// Internet: jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu Genie: vlad /// Only the Amiga Sysop of The Beachside, Amiga BBS, Paragon 2.085 \\V// Makes it Possible Fido Net 1:3612/557. 904-492-2305 (Florida) \X/
jdutka@wpi.WPI.EDU (John Dutka) (02/01/91)
In article <26599@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) writes: >I'm pretty dern happy with Paragon as well. No kludges like >Skyline or CNet to get it to run FIDO... :) Yeah, but at least Skyline is original code :) (re: CNet) and is supported :) (re: Paragon/Jon Radoff) (SEE THE SMILEY FACES!) On a more serious note, Skyline V2.0, due out Summer '91 will have FidoNet built-in and a 16 line capacity with no slowdown, and will run perfectly on a 2.0 equipped Amiga 3000/25... Due to problems with the CNet author, Skypix/the ARexx interface is said to be being rewritten... If you want more details, E-Mail me, please... -- | husc6!m2c!wpi!jdutka | "Hey, baby - wanna do some HEAT TRANSFER? | | jdutka@wpi.wpi.edu | Heh, heh, heh!" | | John Dutka, Jr. | -Mechanical Engineers On The Prowl |
jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) (02/02/91)
In article <1991Feb1.030639.28920@wpi.WPI.EDU> jdutka@wpi.WPI.EDU (John Dutka) writes: >Yeah, but at least Skyline is original code :) (re: CNet) and is supported :) >(re: Paragon/Jon Radoff) (SEE THE SMILEY FACES!) Yes, that used to be a valid point against Paragon. However, for the past two months, Eric Drewry has been supporting Paragon with a passion. We've seen three updates in the past two months and Paragon is finally achieving solid status. (Smiley faces noticed!) >On a more serious note, Skyline V2.0, due out Summer '91 will have FidoNet >built-in and a 16 line capacity with no slowdown, and will run perfectly >on a 2.0 equipped Amiga 3000/25... Due to problems with the CNet author, >Skypix/the ARexx interface is said to be being rewritten... Yes, I read that message in FIDOnet: Amiga as well. No slowdown? Well, that's a pipe dream. When you add tasks or users to a system, of course you have slowdown. It happens on a Vax 6320, it happens on an Amiga 2000. I can guarantee that 16 users on a stock 2000 would make molasses. Same thing happens with the current max of nine users in Paragon. (Which, I might add, works already on an A3000... :) Oh, I'll make an educated guess that many utilities will have to be rewritten for Skyline 2.0. I can say that as whenever you add lots of new features to software, some old things get changed and the new things have to be accounted for. We've seen this in Paragon with the 2.1 (and with just about any other major revision of any piece of software in computer history...) I hope Skyline 2.0 becomes everything the author plans it to be. Paragon and XenoLink need the competition. (Heck, even DLG Proffessional and TransAmiga need the competition.) Competition brings out new features and bug fixes much quicker! There is more than enough room on the 2 million Amigas for different FIDO capable BBS software packages. -- John M. Adams --***-- Professional Student /// Internet: jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu Genie: vlad /// Only the Amiga Sysop of The Beachside, Amiga BBS, Paragon 2.085 \\V// Makes it Possible Fido Net 1:3612/557. 904-492-2305 (Florida) \X/
cadill@athena.mit.edu (Christopher J Carrillo) (02/02/91)
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csd0603@ux.acs.umn.edu (Dewd) (02/02/91)
(excuse the subject line...) Can anyone tell me where I can get a hold of "uw" for Unix? Thanx. Michael
graham@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (JIM GRAHAM) (02/03/91)
In article <26625@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU>, jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) writes... >even DLG Proffessional and TransAmiga need the competition.) I'm using TransAmiga. Nice package. Tell me though, what is DLG Professional? I've never heard of it. Is it commercial or shareware? Finally, where may it be found? (I've never seen any advertisements for it). Thanks, -Jim -> ->Disclaimer: I'm not ashamed of what I say. <- <- Sorry if the above disclaimer is too long. ______________________________________________________________________ | Internet: graham@venus.iucf.indiana.edu | | UUCP: dolmen!graham@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu | | FIDO: Soon! | | BBS: The PORTAL DOLMEN BBS/ParaNet ALPHA-GAMMA (sm) (9:1012/13) | | (812) 334-0418, 24hrs. | |______________________________________________________________________|
jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) (02/03/91)
In article <1991Feb2.185401.2238@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> graham@venus.iucf.indiana.edu writes: > >Tell me though, what is DLG Professional? > >I've never heard of it. Is it commercial or shareware? > >Finally, where may it be found? (I've never seen any advertisements >for it). DLG is Dialog Professional, but they had to change the name as there's an information service already using the name Dialog. It's *HIGHLY* commercial, costin in excess of $200 dollars. It requires Trapdoor to be FIDO compatible. I don't have a phone number availble. Try reading an Amiga echo and you'll see a tag line with a number. The program is only available from it's author. [personal opinion follows] I think DLG Pro sucks. And that's not because I run Paragon since I think other BBS programs such as TransAmiga are quite good. I don't like the mesage format, I don't like not having a native mailer, I think it costs WAY too much (especially for requiring the shareware program Trapdoor to be FIDO compatible), and I dont care for the attitude of the author. [personal opinion over] -- John M. Adams --***-- Professional Student /// Internet: jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu Genie: vlad /// Only the Amiga Sysop of The Beachside, Amiga BBS, Paragon 2.085 \\V// Makes it Possible Fido Net 1:3612/557. 904-492-2305 (Florida) \X/
chris@kessner.denver.co.us (Chris Hanson) (02/03/91)
In article <1991Feb2.185401.2238@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> graham@venus.iucf.indiana.edu writes: >Tell me though, what is DLG Professional? > >I've never heard of it. Is it commercial or shareware? > >Finally, where may it be found? (I've never seen any advertisements >for it). Here in Denver, a friend of mine is running a 3-line BBS on DLGPro. I am rather impressed by it, as it keeps up very well on a bogged-down a1000 that has a slow HD. DLG Pro is a commercial system, in very late testing, or possibly in release by now. It has some excellent features, a great Full Screen Editor, nice file transfer and message systems, and is in general a very slick and solid product. If you'd like to see it for yourself, it is: Arvada 68k System, c/o Reid Bishop (303)/424-6208 Just for kicks, if you do call, tell Reid you saw the message here. I'm curious as to how much response there may be. >-Jim Chris - Xenon (Sorry, no .sig yet, left it on the other machine... ;)
rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond) (02/05/91)
In a message posted on 3 Feb 91 03:06:47 GMT,
jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) wrote:
J'A>[personal opinion follows]
J'A>
J'A>I think DLG Pro sucks. And that's not because I run
J'A>Paragon since I think other BBS programs such as TransAmiga
J'A>are quite good. I don't like the mesage format, I don't
J'A>like not having a native mailer, I think it costs WAY too
J'A>much (especially for requiring the shareware program
J'A>Trapdoor to be FIDO compatible), and I dont care for the
J'A>attitude of the author.
J'A>
J'A>[personal opinion over]
[second personal opinion about to spill onto the net]
I believe the exact opposite. (Execpt for your good comments about
TransAmiga). The message format of Dialog is quite good, and it has
been proven that the INCLUSION of the 'mailer' into Paragon has
caused more problems than it's worth (Then again, the Session-handler
for PARAGON is famous in the Fidonet-Developers community - It was so broken
that EVERY mailer author had a problem with it at one time or another).
The cost? Since it has not been released yet, nobody has any definite cost
figures. All that has been said DEFINITIVELY is that it will be UNDER $200. As
far as 'requiring' Trapdoor, this is another mis-conception. ANY front-end
mailer will work. (While use of Welmat right now may seem restrictive due to
it's lack of ZedZap, this is a top priority to the Welmat Developers, and
will be dealt with. At that time, there will be a Freely-distributable
Session handler to deal with. I also think there will likely be other authors
putting their hat into the Freely-Distributable session handler 'market' as
there are other authors that Agree with 'freely distributable' but don't
agree with some of the other philosophies of the Welmat authors (Probably
expecially my "What's a Single Line" thing ;-)
Also, I think all authors seem to have attitude problems. I have found the
Dialog crew to be a lot more responsive to the views and needs of it's users
than the PARAGON authors. There is even a PARAGON Hate-Mail Club ;-)
[Personal opinion mode off ;-) ]
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