drtiller@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Donald Richard Tillery Jr) (02/22/91)
I just happened to use a Mac II today, accidently to access our multimax while I was waiting on a printout from an MS-sloth machine which I had to use to run PSpice and Probe because there aren't any Amiga versions (that I know of). Anyway, the Mac had a program (don't know much about them, only the second time I've ever touched one, but the GUI is similar to the Amiga's so I was able to run it) that opens a window on the screen (whatever they call their Workbench screen) for the telecom program. I gather that the standard Mac II graphics has a higher resolution than the Amiga because it looked like the font was a 6 x 8 one but an 80 x 20 window only took up a little over a quarter of the screen (6 x 80 ~= 480 so I assume the widthe is about 800 and 8 x 20 so I figure the height is 500 or 600) but this was enough for me to wonder if there was such an animal on the Amiga. With a hi-res interlace screen and a 6 x 8 (or 5 x 8 if you are masochistic) font, a 80 x 20 window would take about a third or less of the screen. Is there a VT-100 type telecom program that will use a Workbench window as output? The Mac one had a slider gadget for history, but I didn't check it out long enough to see if it had any other features. I would like VT-100 emulation, a capture mode, ZModem (maybe X modem too) and that's about all I would request. If this doesn't exist, I'll probably throw something together just to see if anyone likes the idea. I've already put together a sample screen in DPaint to see how big the thing would be and it looks acceptable for me (although non-de-interlaced individuals would probably find it annoying). Rick Tillery (drtiller@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu)
231b3678@fergvax.unl.edu (Phil Dietz) (02/23/91)
With WB2.0, screens will have an option to become PUBLIC, meaning windows
can be put on it or taken off if they want too. If you really want a
WINDOW comm program and you have 2.0, simply make the terminal use a window
(like jrcomm), then move the window to the screen you want. NOTE: jrcomm
hasn't been compiled to use PUBLIC SCREENS, so you'll have to wait....but
you get the picture.
The reason a MAC opens a window is that the system is geared around ONE
common screen-- the desktop. If you run multi-finder you'll notice that
every program you run will be on the same screen. To get to one program,
you have to dig around with the window to find the one you want.
The Amiga on the otherhand allows SCREENS to be created just as easily as
windows. The benefits are that each program is organized to its own screen,
thus preventing clutter. One bad thing is that commodore doen't offer a DECENT
way of swapping screens. To relieve this problem, get QMOUSE, screenx, or
someother type of dealy.
Phil Dietz
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235b4271@fergvax.unl.edu \/ Amiga!jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) (02/24/91)
In article <1991Feb22.025305.4559@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu> drtiller@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Donald Richard Tillery Jr) writes: >I just happened to use a Mac II today, accidently to access our multimax while >I was waiting on a printout from an MS-sloth machine which I had to use to >run PSpice and Probe because there aren't any Amiga versions (that I know of). There's a reasonably good port of SPICE on one of the Fish disks, and I've seen a program called SPLOT that, while not a PROBE emulator, does the job well. I'm sorry I can't give you any more details, but I haven't used them since I finished college last year. >Anyway, the Mac had a program (don't know much about them, only the second time >I've ever touched one, but the GUI is similar to the Amiga's so I was able to >run it) that opens a window on the screen (whatever they call their Workbench >screen) for the telecom program. I gather that the standard Mac II graphics The "desktop" screen is the name, and unless the II does it differently, the Mac doesn't even HAVE multiple screens. This probably isn't what you're looking for, but JR-Comm 1.01 has the ability to run in a window on the Workbench screen. It will be a borderless, fixed-size window, though. (Which is why I said it probably isn't what you're looking for.) -- * From the disk of: | jms@vanth.uucp | "Glittering prizes and Jim Shaffer, Jr. | amix.commodore.com!vanth!jms | endless compromises 37 Brook Street | 72750.2335@compuserve.com | shatter the illusion of Montgomery, PA 17752 | (CompuServe as a last resort)| integrity!" (Rush)