barrett@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Dan Barrett) (02/26/91)
I just got a note from Jeff Davis of Manx. Version 5.0e of their
Amiga C compiler is on the Manx BBS in the Amiga Update area. (You have
to send a note to the sysop, with your registration number, to get access
to this area.)
In his words:
Version 5.0e of the Amiga compiler is on the manx bbs, in
the amiga update area, in file cc50e1.lzh; it fixes a bug
that prevented resident libraries from working.
The phone number for the Manx BBS is in your manual.
Jeff also said that there is "talk" about making a newsletter for
Manx users, "but that's all it is now - talk." If you want such a thing,
maybe calling Manx may help push the idea forward.
Dan
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In article <7650@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU>, Dan Barrett writes: > I just got a note from Jeff Davis of Manx. Version 5.0e of their > Amiga C compiler is on the Manx BBS in the Amiga Update area. (You have > to send a note to the sysop, with your registration number, to get access > to this area.) > > In his words: > > Version 5.0e of the Amiga compiler is on the manx bbs, in > the amiga update area, in file cc50e1.lzh; it fixes a bug > that prevented resident libraries from working. First of all, is your registration number the serial numbers located on your master disks? Secondly how large is this update and what is the max baudrate of the BBS? > The phone number for the Manx BBS is in your manual. I give up. I looked and did not find it in the manual. Can you give me a specific page? Or maybe the actual phone number. Basically I'd hate to make several long distance phone calls for nothing. > Jeff also said that there is "talk" about making a newsletter for > Manx users, "but that's all it is now - talk." If you want such a thing, > maybe calling Manx may help push the idea forward. > > Dan - Kurt -- Kurt Hawkes Amiga 2000 (Hey, it works! Works well!) // (Just cover up the C word!) Warning: // Choose: Dangerous // (a) jupiter@olympus.mlb.fl.us \ Thinker \\ // (b) jupiter@cis.ufl.edu \ On Board! \X/ or (c) khawkes@pogo.ai.mit.edu / \
bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson) (03/01/91)
In article <18c1518e.ARN03b5@olympus.mlb.fl.us> jupiter@olympus.mlb.fl.us writes: >First of all, is your registration number the serial numbers located on >your master disks? Secondly how large is this update and what is the >max baudrate of the BBS? Yep, that's the registration number. The update file is approx 60K. >> The phone number for the Manx BBS is in your manual. >I give up. I looked and did not find it in the manual. Can you give me >a specific page? Or maybe the actual phone number. It's on page 4-4 of the "Technical Support" chapter in the front of the 5.0 manual. BBS: (201) 542-2793 - Kurt bj ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Brian Jackson Software Engineer, Commodore-Amiga Inc. GEnie: B.J. | | bj@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com or ...{uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!bj | | "We defy augury" | -----------------------------------------------------------------------
djohnson@mbongo.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson) (03/02/91)
In article <19381@cbmvax.commodore.com> bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson) writes: >In article <18c1518e.ARN03b5@olympus.mlb.fl.us> jupiter@olympus.mlb.fl.us writes: >>First of all, is your registration number the serial numbers located on >>your master disks? Secondly how large is this update and what is the >>max baudrate of the BBS? > >Yep, that's the registration number. The update file is approx 60K. Is there possibly any other method of doing this? Using a BBS as the only official method of updates is silly. Probably just wait for 5.1 and hope someone mentions that it is out (since I have never received any notice through official channels from Manx). -- Darin Johnson djohnson@ucsd.edu - Political correctness is Turing undecidable.
griffin@frith.uucp (Danny Griffin) (03/02/91)
jupiter@olympus.mlb.fl.us (Kurt R. Hawkes) writes: >In article <7650@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU>, Dan Barrett writes: >First of all, is your registration number the serial numbers located on >your master disks? Secondly how large is this update and what is the >max baudrate of the BBS? Yes. I don't know. 1200 baud (at one time) >> The phone number for the Manx BBS is in your manual. >I give up. I looked and did not find it in the manual. Can you give me >a specific page? Or maybe the actual phone number. Basically I'd hate >to make several long distance phone calls for nothing. (201) 542-2793 p. 4-4 of v5.0 C User Guide (first section of book) p. 3 of 3.6a Using MANX Technical Support (three ring binder version) chapter -- Dan Griffin griffin@frith.egr.msu.edu
dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave P. Schaumann) (03/02/91)
In article <1991Mar2.012740.18001@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> griffin@frith.uucp (Danny Griffin) writes: >jupiter@olympus.mlb.fl.us (Kurt R. Hawkes) writes: >>In article <7650@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU>, Dan Barrett writes: >>[...]what is the max baudrate of the [Manx] BBS? > >[...]1200 baud (at one time) The maximum is at least 2400 baud, although the last time I called at 2400 baud the line was so noisy I was unable to log in. I had no problem at 1200 baud, though. (Apart from the fact that 1200 baud is half fast). -- Dave Schaumann dave@cs.arizona.edu 'Dog Gang'! Where do they get off calling us the 'Dog Gang'? I'm beginning to think the party's over. I'm beginning to think maybe we don't need a dog. Or maybe we need a *new* dog. Or maybe we need a *cat*! - Amazing Stories
cgehman@hubcap.clemson.edu (Corey Gehman) (03/03/91)
djohnson@mbongo.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson) writes: >In article <19381@cbmvax.commodore.com> bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson) writes: >Is there possibly any other method of doing this? Using a BBS as the >only official method of updates is silly. Probably just wait for >5.1 and hope someone mentions that it is out (since I have never >received any notice through official channels from Manx). Yes, you can order the update by phone. They have an "upgrade" phone number in the front of the manual (I'm not sure if they let you upgrade from their 800 number or not). They charged me $15 to send me a disk with the new files on it. My biggest complaint about Manx is not receiving any information about new upgrades. I've always found out in the amiga newgroups and then call them to upgrade. They must be losing a lot of money from people that would like to upgrade but never find out about it. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Corey Gehman | "you will get to watch the Amiga | | cg377170@lion.eng.clemson.edu | FIREWORKS_DISPLAY mode." | | cgehman@hubcap.clemson.edu | - Intuition Reference Manual |
allen@grebyn.com (Allen Farrington) (03/03/91)
In article <991@caslon.cs.arizona.edu>, dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave P. Schaumann) writes: > The maximum is at least 2400 baud, although the last time I called at 2400 > baud the line was so noisy I was unable to log in. I had no problem at > 1200 baud, though. (Apart from the fact that 1200 baud is half fast). > > -- > Dave Schaumann dave@cs.arizona.edu I downloaded 5.0e lastnight from Manx without any problems at 2400 baud. There was a new bulletin which stated that they have re-worked their telephone cable to improve the line-noise problem. The download took 7 minutes using XModem at 2400 baud. Manx BBS @(201)542-2793 --Allen -- |------------------------------------------| | Allen H. Farrington (703) 222-9612 | "It's like nothing we've ever | allen@grebyn.com | dealt with before." |------------------------------------------| -Mr. Spock
bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson) (03/03/91)
In article <991@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave P. Schaumann) writes: >In article <1991Mar2.012740.18001@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> griffin@frith.uucp (Danny Griffin) writes: >>jupiter@olympus.mlb.fl.us (Kurt R. Hawkes) writes: >>>In article <7650@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU>, Dan Barrett writes: >>>[...]what is the max baudrate of the [Manx] BBS? >> >>[...]1200 baud (at one time) > >The maximum is at least 2400 baud, although the last time I called at 2400 >baud the line was so noisy I was unable to log in. I had no problem at >1200 baud, though. (Apart from the fact that 1200 baud is half fast). > It's 2400 now. I asked them when they were going to put in a 9600 modem. Someday. The line noise problem is gone. I downloaded my 5.0E fix from the BBS just fine (at 2400). bj > Dave Schaumann dave@cs.arizona.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Brian Jackson Software Engineer, Commodore-Amiga Inc. GEnie: B.J. | | bj@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com or ...{uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!bj | | "We defy augury" | -----------------------------------------------------------------------
dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave P. Schaumann) (03/04/91)
In article <19445@cbmvax.commodore.com> bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson) writes: >It's 2400 now. I asked them when they were going to put in a 9600 >modem. Someday. Gee, I bet "someday" would be a lot sooner if you volunteered to pay for the modem yourself... :-) > | Brian Jackson Software Engineer, Commodore-Amiga Inc. GEnie: B.J. | followups to c.s.a.datacomm -- Dave Schaumann dave@cs.arizona.edu 'Dog Gang'! Where do they get off calling us the 'Dog Gang'? I'm beginning to think the party's over. I'm beginning to think maybe we don't need a dog. Or maybe we need a *new* dog. Or maybe we need a *cat*! - Amazing Stories
davidm@uunet.UU.NET (David S. Masterson) (03/04/91)
>>>>> On 3 Mar 91 06:49:13 GMT, bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson) said:
Brian> The line noise problem is gone. I downloaded my 5.0E fix from the BBS
Brian> just fine (at 2400).
Do you need to be at 5.0e to make use of the download update (I'm currently at
5.0b)? I don't want to try to download this via long distance if it isn't
going to be helpful once I get it.
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"If someone thinks they know what I said, then I didn't say it!"bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson) (03/04/91)
In article <CIMSHOP!DAVIDM.91Mar3183705@cimshop3.uunet.UU.NET> cimshop!davidm@uunet.UU.NET (David S. Masterson) writes: >Do you need to be at 5.0e to make use of the download update (I'm currently at >5.0b)? I don't want to try to download this via long distance if it isn't >going to be helpful once I get it. Are you writing code for libraries? If not then don't bother. Just wait for the real update. Otherwise, the answer is yes, you can use the 'E' compiler just fine with the 'D' stuff. As far as I know this new 'cc' is the only thing that exists called 'E'. (sheesh, Sesame Street.:)) bj >David Masterson Consilium, Inc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Brian Jackson Software Engineer, Commodore-Amiga Inc. GEnie: B.J. | | bj@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com or ...{uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!bj | | "We defy augury" | -----------------------------------------------------------------------
huver@amgraf.UUCP (Huver) (03/06/91)
In article <19470@cbmvax.commodore.com> bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson) writes: >In article <CIMSHOP!DAVIDM.91Mar3183705@cimshop3.uunet.UU.NET> > cimshop!davidm@uunet.UU.NET (David S. Masterson) writes: >>Do you need to be at 5.0e to make use of the download update (I'm currently at >>5.0b)? I don't want to try to download this via long distance if it isn't ^^^^ >>going to be helpful once I get it. > >Are you writing code for libraries? If not then don't bother. Just wait >for the real update. Otherwise, the answer is yes, you can use the 'E' >compiler just fine with the 'D' stuff. As far as I know this new 'cc' >is the only thing that exists called 'E'. (sheesh, Sesame Street.:)) > >bj > The original poster, David Masterson, indicated clearly he's at 5.0 'B', not 'D'. There's quite a bit difference from B to D: cc, as, libraries, sdb, and some header file fixes (I don't remember if the full header files were distributed with D). As far as I am concerned, 5.0a and b were so buggy it ain't funny (run, not walk, away from them). 5.0d seems a lot stable -- though not perfect, but the stupid -MR bug can be worked around; and the -r6 option solves 'trashing your A6' problem for codes that need it (eg. a library). The 5.0d libraries (c*.lib), though, had 'lvodos' modules got their offset signs reversed, but Jeff Davis at Manx had posted a replacement 'lvodos.lzh' on the BBS. -huver !uunet!amgraf!huver -or- huver%amgraf@uunet.uu.net ------ "Universal Look & Feel: would the female population in the world welcome the idea that all men look and feel like Mel Gibson? What about all women look and feel exactly like Madonna, guys?"
davidm@uunet.UU.NET (David S. Masterson) (03/07/91)
>>>>> On 6 Mar 91 04:16:03 GMT, huver@amgraf.UUCP (Huver) said: Huver> In article <19470@cbmvax.commodore.com> bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Huver> Jackson) writes: BJ> In article <CIMSHOP!DAVIDM.91Mar3183705@cimshop3.uunet.UU.NET> BJ> cimshop!davidm@uunet.UU.NET (David S. Masterson) writes: David> Do you need to be at 5.0e to make use of the download update (I'm ^^^^ -- should be 5.0d David> currently at 5.0b)? I don't want to try to download this via long Huver> ^^^^ David> distance if it isn't going to be helpful once I get it. BJ> Are you writing code for libraries? If not then don't bother. Just wait BJ> for the real update. Otherwise, the answer is yes, you can use the 'E' BJ> compiler just fine with the 'D' stuff. As far as I know this new 'cc' is BJ> the only thing that exists called 'E'. (sheesh, Sesame Street.:)) Huver> The original poster, David Masterson, indicated clearly he's at 5.0 Huver> 'B', not 'D'. There's quite a bit difference from B to D: cc, as, Huver> libraries, sdb, and some header file fixes (I don't remember if the Huver> full header files were distributed with D). Yeh, but I did screw up. I meant to ask 'do you need to be at 5.0d to make use of the 5.0e upgrade' or does the 5.0e upgrade upgrade any 5.0 version to the current 5.0e? Apparently, if I can get access to the BBS (sometimes a problem), I would have to get the b->c, c->d, d->e upgrades to bring me up to snuff. Are all these upgrades still on the BBS? -- ==================================================================== David Masterson Consilium, Inc. (415) 691-6311 640 Clyde Ct. uunet!cimshop!davidm Mtn. View, CA 94043 ==================================================================== "If someone thinks they know what I said, then I didn't say it!"