[comp.sys.amiga.programmer] Request FEEDBACK on A3000 Glitch

jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) (03/24/91)

[ followups to comp.sys.amiga.hardware, .tech is supposed to be gone ]

In article <1991Mar21.180521.9469@swbatl.sbc.com> jburnes@swbatl.sbc.com (Jim Burnes - 235-0709) writes:
>Has anyone noticed any hard drive errors on new A3000's.  We've been 
>getting CRC erros on our Quantum hard drives.  Whats really wierd is
>that after running continous overnight diagnostics on the system, the
>errors won't occurr.  After bringing this machine (and were not the
>only one in St. Louis that has this problem) ...after bringing it to
>our dealer MULTIPLE TIMES and having every major system componenet
>swapped out the errors keep occurring.  Sometimes they occurr when
>running the 2.0 version of DPAINT III.  Sometimes we can't even predict
>a crash.  I'm beginning to think this is a engineering design problem.
>Some sort of strange bus activity/noise problem that causes the machine
>to fail.

	There are other possibilites.  You may be getting glitches on your
power lines (these can be REALLY confusing), so it might happen only at
your home.  It can be hard to diagnose unless lights or other equipment show
changes (like dimming or brightening).

	It could be a PD or commercial utility leaving "time bombs" 
unintentionally.  It may be an interaction of two incorrect programs (for
example, one write to location 0, the other reads it and assumes it's 0).

	What version of 2.0 are you running?  Does it happen if you run 1.3?
(You should have 2.02 (version 36.207)).  There was a WB disk for 2.02, did
you update your system using it?

	The sort of thing you mention is a theoretical possibility, but that
sort of error is quite unlikely assuming you did swap motherboard/disk/PS.
(You did swap those, if I read your message right.)

>My Commodore dealer is stumped because everyone he calls at Commodore
>says that they havent heard a thing about this.  I think they are 
>lying.  More than one of his customers has had the same exact problem
>If Commodore won't admit to it, I'm forced to take an informal survey.

	I certainly haven't heard anything like this, but then again I'm
a software engineer, not hardware, let alone PA or Service.

NOTE: this is (as usual) a personal unofficial comment/opinion, not that of
Commodore or any branch thereof.
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