[comp.sys.amiga.programmer] quasi WB2.0 BUGS and Autoknob question

dave@unislc.uucp (Dave Martin) (04/02/91)

From article <3877@bruce.cs.monash.OZ.AU>, by roddi@bruce.cs.monash.OZ.AU (Roddi Walker):
> 
> 	Also, when 2.0 was redrawing the windoes, it would often leave
> vertical/horizontal 1 pixel wide/thick gaps when redrawing the window
> borders (the box with the scroll bars) and the little rectangle around the
> icons within the window.

I'm not sure to what you are referring to here but if its the gap between
the container and the scroll bar, I was under the impression that it was
supposed to be there, I think it looks better than totally filling in the
container.  I just wish the slider (the auto-knob variety) had the 3-D
look (see motif sliders).  

Is there a way to use custom imagery for an
auto-knob?  Perhaps a routine that could be called by intuition when the
knob needs to be resized to redo the imagery?  Intuition should still be
able to move it by itself.

Also, i've noticed that pictures on the manuals for the A3000 show 
3-D looking gadgets, but the actual gadgets are just 2-D looking on a 3-D
raised (or depressed when selected) box.  (yes, I read the readme that said
the pictures in the manual might vary from the actual pictures, but I think
the pictures in the manual look better.)  What happened?

Is there an O.S. supported/friendly way to change system gadget imagery?

I don't mean for this to sound like a complaint, I'm really very happy with
WB2.02.  It is a GREAT improvement over WB1.3.
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peter@cbmvax.commodore.com (Peter Cherna) (04/03/91)

In article <1991Apr1.212109.18364@unislc.uucp> dave@unislc.uucp (Dave Martin) writes:
>Is there a way to use custom imagery for an
>auto-knob?  Perhaps a routine that could be called by intuition when the
>knob needs to be resized to redo the imagery?  Intuition should still be
>able to move it by itself.

You can use a custom image for a knob, but not for an auto-knob.  One
day, perhaps.

>Also, i've noticed that pictures on the manuals for the A3000 show 
>3-D looking gadgets, but the actual gadgets are just 2-D looking on a 3-D
>raised (or depressed when selected) box.  (yes, I read the readme that said
>the pictures in the manual might vary from the actual pictures, but I think
>the pictures in the manual look better.)  What happened?

They actually look terrible in real-life.  The reason is that the interior
area of the gadgets is several precious pixels smaller, which meant that
the designs were too small to be legible.  It looked muddy and confused.
Also, there were too many lines and too many tiers of 3D-relief.

     Peter
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forgeas@swinjm.UUCP (Jean-Michel Forgeas) (04/04/91)

In article <1991Apr1.212109.18364@unislc.uucp>, Dave Martin writes:

> Also, i've noticed that pictures on the manuals for the A3000 show
> 3-D looking gadgets, but the actual gadgets are just 2-D looking on a 3-D
> raised (or depressed when selected) box.
> [...]
> Is there an O.S. supported/friendly way to change system gadget imagery?

You will find a new version of WBGauge on a Fish disk RSN. This new
version (1.2) by a command line argument allows you to set the 3D look
flag of the PropGadgets, either only into the Worbench windows or
into all windows.
This cannot be done in a supported/friendly way of course: WBGauge
writes directly into structures belonging to other process. Not good
at all from the programer's point of view, but as a user I like it.

;-)
    Jean-Michel
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