[comp.sys.amiga.programmer] Hacking in a 68020

dave@csis.dit.csiro.au (David Campbell) (06/25/91)

How difficult would it be to build a board with a 68020 and an MMU that
would drop into the CPU socket replacing the 68000?  Ignore the
possibility of 32-bit memory, I just want the MMU capabilities.

Can somebody please describe the problems I would face?  A friend tells
me that its necessary to ensure adequate time for interleaved access
to the video ram; can anybody enlarge on this and any other problems..

An 030 would probably be easier but also more expensive.

Thanks..
Dave Campbell
dave@csis.dit.csiro.au

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breemen@rulcvx.LeidenUniv.nl (E. van Breemen) (06/25/91)

In article <1991Jun24.215409.3740@csis.dit.csiro.au> dave@csis.dit.csiro.au (David Campbell) writes:
>How difficult would it be to build a board with a 68020 and an MMU that
>would drop into the CPU socket replacing the 68000?  Ignore the
>possibility of 32-bit memory, I just want the MMU capabilities.
>
>An 030 would probably be easier but also more expensive.
>
>Thanks..
>Dave Campbell

I think you can better buy an 68030 because the MMU is relativly expensive
for an 68020. Making an interface is very simple. Just read the docs
of Commodore about expansionboards and follow the guidelines. We have made
a synchronous 68020 board in 6 weeks and it worked the first time we 
plugged it in. An 68030 interface will be more or less the same. Things
will get a bit more complicated for an asynchronous board.Then you will
have to add a datalatch for the databus. This is not neccesary for a
synchronous board.

hpoing this will help,

Erwin van Breemen

lron@easy.lrcd.com (Dwight Hubbard) (06/26/91)

In article <1991Jun24.215409.3740@csis.dit.csiro.au> dave@csis.dit.csiro.au (David Campbell) writes:
>How difficult would it be to build a board with a 68020 and an MMU that
>would drop into the CPU socket replacing the 68000?  Ignore the
>possibility of 32-bit memory, I just want the MMU capabilities.
>
>Can somebody please describe the problems I would face?  A friend tells
>me that its necessary to ensure adequate time for interleaved access
>to the video ram; can anybody enlarge on this and any other problems..
>
>An 030 would probably be easier but also more expensive.

Well, if price is the determining factor wouldn't a 68010 be cheaper?

rkushner@sycom.UUCP (Ronald Kushner) (06/27/91)

lron@easy.lrcd.com (Dwight Hubbard) writes:
>In article <1991Jun24.215409.3740@csis.dit.csiro.au> dave@csis.dit.csiro.au (D
>>How difficult would it be to build a board with a 68020 and an MMU that
>>would drop into the CPU socket replacing the 68000?  Ignore the
>>possibility of 32-bit memory, I just want the MMU capabilities.
>>
>>Can somebody please describe the problems I would face?  A friend tells
>>me that its necessary to ensure adequate time for interleaved access
>>to the video ram; can anybody enlarge on this and any other problems..
>>
>>An 030 would probably be easier but also more expensive.
>
>Well, if price is the determining factor wouldn't a 68010 be cheaper?

A 68010 doesn't have the MMU he wants.....

Doesn't the A2000 schematics show the 86 pin connector as a MMU slot??

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lron@easy.lrcd.com (Dwight Hubbard) (06/27/91)

In article <rkushner.3011@sycom.UUCP> rkushner@sycom.UUCP (Ronald Kushner) writes:
>lron@easy.lrcd.com (Dwight Hubbard) writes:
>>In article <1991Jun24.215409.3740@csis.dit.csiro.au> dave@csis.dit.csiro.au (D
>>>How difficult would it be to build a board with a 68020 and an MMU that
>>>would drop into the CPU socket replacing the 68000?  Ignore the
>>>possibility of 32-bit memory, I just want the MMU capabilities.
>>>
>>>Can somebody please describe the problems I would face?  A friend tells
>>>me that its necessary to ensure adequate time for interleaved access
>>>to the video ram; can anybody enlarge on this and any other problems..
>>>
>>>An 030 would probably be easier but also more expensive.
>>
>>Well, if price is the determining factor wouldn't a 68010 be cheaper?
>
>A 68010 doesn't have the MMU he wants.....

Neither does the 68020, but the 68010 if I remember right differs from the
68000 in that it can handle an MMU while the 68000 can't.

>Doesn't the A2000 schematics show the 86 pin connector as a MMU slot??

Something like that, with like one or two signals missing that are available
on the motherboard.  Of course all the signals needed are at the CPU socket
too :-)
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