lord_zar@ucrmath.ucr.edu (wayne wallace) (01/30/91)
Heya, guess what I head this morning ? CNN was giving their quickie business news, and I swear, the guy SMILED when he said Commodore earnings last quarter had TRIPLED, yes, TRIPLED, due in large part to European sales! Let's hear it for (this is an american writing this) our overseas brethren!!!! Good job guys! Commodore, is your European branch doing something the North American branch doesn't know about ? Wayne * // Only /\ |Lord Zar,Commander Of All He Surveys|Stay Alert! Trust * *\\ // /--\MIGA |(and hater of spaces near commas.) |No One! Keep--AHHHH* * \X/ Internet: lord_zar@ucrmath.ucr.edu QuantumLink & Portal: Lord_Zar * * I'm a Purple Hearts & Yellow Moons kinda guy; I'm vay-teeng for you, dahlink*
874226@watt.usask.ca (Shawn Switenky) (01/31/91)
It's great that europeans and bying Commodore stuff, but what is our problem in North America? Shawn Switenky 874226@watt.usask.ca
jsmoller@jsmami.UUCP (Jesper Steen Moller) (01/31/91)
In article <lord_zar.665247086@ucrmath>, wayne wallace writes: > Heya, guess what I head this morning ? > CNN was giving their quickie business news, and I swear, the guy SMILED > when he said Commodore earnings last quarter had TRIPLED, yes, TRIPLED, due > in large part to European sales! As a European Amiga Developer, I can say that they deserve it! By the way, does anybody know anything about CNN using Amigas for their video effects. I've heard a rumour that they use ProVideo Post, but I'd be grateful if anybody could actually verify this. > Wayne /Jesper -- __ Jesper Steen Moller /// UUCP: {uuneyt|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax! Maglemosevej 52 __ /// cbmehq!jsmami!jsmoller DK-2920 Charl \\\/// FIDONET: 2:231/84.45 Denmark \XX/ OPINIONS: Certainly!
jep@mtiame.mtia.oz (Jesper Peterson) (01/31/91)
In article <43259@nigel.ee.udel.edu> 874226@watt.usask.ca (Shawn Switenky) writes: >It's great that europeans and bying Commodore stuff, but what is our problem >in North America? North Americans? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ USEnet: jep@mtiame.mtia.oz.au UUCP: ...!uunet!munnari!mtiame.oz!jep [...] I had to leave out reality to keep the post clean and to the point. - jeremy@milton.u.washington.edu (Jeremy York) in rec.music.misc
peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (01/31/91)
In article <lord_zar.665247086@ucrmath> lord_zar@ucrmath.ucr.edu (wayne wallace) writes: >Heya, guess what I head this morning ? >CNN was giving their quickie business news, and I swear, the guy SMILED >when he said Commodore earnings last quarter had TRIPLED, yes, TRIPLED, due >in large part to European sales! > >Let's hear it for (this is an american writing this) our overseas brethren!!!! >Good job guys! > >Commodore, is your European branch doing something the North American branch >doesn't know about ? Oh, the US branch knows very well what's going on, but the market characteristics are VERY different. Here in Europe (and especially in Germany), Commodore is able to make some money also with selling MS-DOS PCs. We are actually number 2, directly competing with IBM, when we count number of machines. But the PC market in USA is quite different, thus it is quite another story for Commodore USA to get a comparable impact there. Besides, we're selling also many Amigas and, yes, still many C64's :-) -- Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond) (01/31/91)
In a message posted on 31 Jan 91 01:15:33 GMT,
874226@watt.usask.ca (Shawn Switenky) wrote:
SS>It's great that europeans and bying Commodore stuff, but what is our problem
SS>in North America?
The belief that MS-DOS is an operating system, The LACK of Computer Literate
citezens (and 'computer scientists'), and the fact that MONEY is considered
more important than Quality in N.A.
Oh, well ;-)
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Opinions expressed in this message are my Own. I represent nobody else.
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In article <lord_zar.665247086@ucrmath>, lord_zar@ucrmath.ucr.edu (wayne wallace) writes: > > Commodore, is your European branch doing something the North American branch > doesn't know about ? > > Wayne Advertising, possibly? It's a farely new idea, but seems to be working for IBM and Apple. Unless of course they sell lots of machines because they are remarkably innovative ;-). ---Mike, -- -------- o A herd of bagels | Michael Figg DSAC-FSD | | -- oo o o escaping from a deli. | DLA Systems Automation Center | | -- ooo oo Looking for Lox in | Cols, Ohio mfigg@dsac.dla.mil -------- o o all the wrong places | CIS: 73777,360
griff@anvil.intel.com (Richard Griffith) (02/01/91)
[ deleted ] > > Commodore, is your European branch doing something the North American branch > doesn't know about ? > > > Wayne Well, let's hope computers do the same as art, music, science, and culture. Ie. Anything Europe loves, Americans love More! :-) :Richard E. Griffith, "griff" : iNTEL, Hillsboro Ore. :griff@anvil.hf.intel.com :SCA!: Cyrus Hammerhand, Household of the Golden Wolf, Dragons' Mist, An Tir :These are MY opinions, if iNTEL wanted them, They'd pay for `em!
peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (02/02/91)
In article <2911@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil> nfs1675@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil ( Michael S Figg) writes: >In article <lord_zar.665247086@ucrmath>, lord_zar@ucrmath.ucr.edu (wayne wallace) writes: >> >> Commodore, is your European branch doing something the North American branch >> doesn't know about ? > >Advertising, possibly? It's a farely new idea, but seems to be working for >IBM and Apple. Unless of course they sell lots of machines because they are >remarkably innovative ;-). No, at least in Germany there is not sooo much advertising. -- Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
amhartma@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Andy Hartman - AmigaMan) (02/02/91)
In article <1991Feb1.153324.22070@intelhf.hf.intel.com> griff@anvil.intel.com (Richard Griffith) writes: > >Well, let's hope computers do the same as art, music, science, and culture. >Ie. Anything Europe loves, Americans love More! :-) Except for unshaven legs, maybe... ;-) >:Richard E. Griffith, "griff" : iNTEL, Hillsboro Ore. AMH -- * Andy Hartman | I'd deny half of this crap anyway!| Support the troops * Indiana University | amhartma@silver.ucs.indiana.edu | in Saudi Arabia! * Computer Science | AMHARTMA@rose.ucs.indiana.edu | // Amiga Man *Professional Student| or just "Hey putz!" | \X/ At Large!
etxtomp@eos.ericsson.se (Tommy Petersson) (02/04/91)
In article <823@cbmger.UUCP> peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) writes: >In article <2911@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil> nfs1675@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil ( Michael S Figg) writes: >>In article <lord_zar.665247086@ucrmath>, lord_zar@ucrmath.ucr.edu (wayne wallace) writes: >>> >>> Commodore, is your European branch doing something the North American branch >>> doesn't know about ? >> >>Advertising, possibly? It's a farely new idea, but seems to be working for >>IBM and Apple. Unless of course they sell lots of machines because they are >>remarkably innovative ;-). > >No, at least in Germany there is not sooo much advertising. > >-- >Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... >Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk Commodore seems to concentrate on "Football advertising" (soccer for you on the side of the Atlantic, where feet seems to be placed at the end of your arms). I looked at parts of some football games this weekend. There was an indoor tournament Dynamo Kiev won, I beleive in Paris, where "Commodore" was spotted easily. Arsenal - Chelsey (sp) showed a large Commodore sign, and the same from a game in Italy. I didn't look at any German games this weekend, but I've seen before that at least two teams have Commodore on their shirts. "Kick Your Amiga!" Commodore Sweden had some dubious advertising about two years ago, but has stopped that. They seem however a little more interested in what they are doing nowadays. Tommy Petersson etxtomp@eos.ericsson.se
peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (02/05/91)
In article <1991Feb4.124951.15702@ericsson.se> etxtomp@eos.ericsson.se writes: >In article <823@cbmger.UUCP> peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) writes: >>In article <2911@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil> nfs1675@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil ( Michael S Figg) writes: >>>In article <lord_zar.665247086@ucrmath>, lord_zar@ucrmath.ucr.edu (wayne wallace) writes: >>>> >>>> Commodore, is your European branch doing something the North American branch >>>> doesn't know about ? >>> >>>Advertising, possibly? It's a farely new idea, but seems to be working for >>>IBM and Apple. Unless of course they sell lots of machines because they are >>>remarkably innovative ;-). >> >>No, at least in Germany there is not sooo much advertising. > >Commodore seems to concentrate on "Football advertising" (soccer for you on >the side of the Atlantic, where feet seems to be placed at the end of your >arms). I looked at parts of some football games this weekend. There was an >indoor tournament Dynamo Kiev won, I beleive in Paris, where "Commodore" was >spotted easily. Arsenal - Chelsey (sp) showed a large Commodore sign, and >the same from a game in Italy. I didn't look at any German games this weekend, >but I've seen before that at least two teams have Commodore on their shirts. The Chelsea team seems to be sponsored by Commodore UK. Perhaps some people remember, Commodore Germany has sponsored for years the football (I'm speaking of 'real' football :-) team of Bayern Muenchen, one of the top European teams. But this is past. Today Commodore Germany only sponsors an ice-hockey team in the first league and perhaps some volleyball (sp?) team. For some time even the German national volleyball team played with Commodore stickers! -- Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
nfs1675@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil ( Michael S Figg) (02/07/91)
In article <836@cbmger.UUCP>, peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) writes: > Today Commodore Germany > only sponsors an ice-hockey team in the first league and perhaps some > volleyball (sp?) team. For some time even the German national volleyball > team played with Commodore stickers! Does the volleyball team use a red and white checkerboard ball that continually bounces off the walls and ceiling? > -- > Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... ---Mike, -- -------- o A herd of bagels | Michael Figg DSAC-FSD | | -- oo o o escaping from a deli. | DLA Systems Automation Center | | -- ooo oo Looking for Lox in | Cols, Ohio mfigg@dsac.dla.mil -------- o o all the wrong places | CIS: 73777,360