[comp.sys.amiga.misc] Multitasking workbench 2.0

kelson@ais.org (David Lewis) (02/04/91)

  This is probably a dumb and already anwsered question.. but I coudlnt
find it so here it does.... My neighboor just got a 3000 at work.. and
everything is going pretty good with it.. except I cant seem to get
the workbench 2.0 to multitask... I 'thought' it was automatically
supposed to...


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johnhlee@fulla.cs.cornell.edu (John H. Lee) (02/05/91)

In article <588+H8*@irie.ais.org> kelson@ais.org (David Lewis) writes:
>
>  This is probably a dumb and already anwsered question.. but I coudlnt
>find it so here it does.... My neighboor just got a 3000 at work.. and
>everything is going pretty good with it.. except I cant seem to get
>the workbench 2.0 to multitask... I 'thought' it was automatically
>supposed to...

Could you give a little more information as to why you think it wasn't
multitasking?  Multitasking is a responsibility of the lowest system
software layer, and all applications (Workbench included) always multitask
(besides games that take over the system, usually by requiring you boot
from them.)

(Bleah.  I need a better verb meaning "to participate in a multitasking
environment.")
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jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) (02/09/91)

In article <7717@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>What he means is that WB 2.0 is still single-threaded. When it's doing something
>like copying a file it's locked up: you get the Zzz pointer and Intuition
>doesn't update windows.

Huh?  Way back when various magazines were printing previews of "1.4", that
was one of the things they mentioned as being changed!	Did it get taken
back out for some reason?

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jap@convex.cl.msu.edu (Joe Porkka) (02/10/91)

jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) writes:

>In article <7717@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>What he means is that WB 2.0 is still single-threaded. When it's doing something

>Huh?  Way back when various magazines were printing previews of "1.4", that

Hm, its a little multithreaded now. It still waits for opening drawers, but
you don't hafta wait after an application launch.

Apparently the actual code for WorkBench is similar to the output of
fortran-to-c converters -> very icky and hard to change.

One of the projects is a complete rewrite, but this won't happen till
some version after the (hopefully) RSN 2.0

However, I still think that the workbench under 2.0 as it is now is
a GREAT DEAL better than under 1.3 -> thanks to Mike S. at cbm.
It is quite usable, + theres lotsa new goodies in it for future
applications to take advantage of.

dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave P. Schaumann) (02/10/91)

In article <1991Feb9.190059.26278@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> jap@convex.cl.msu.edu (Joe Porkka) writes:
>jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) writes:
>Hm, [WB2.0's] a little multithreaded now. It still waits for opening drawers,
>but you don't hafta wait after an application launch.
>
>Apparently the actual code for WorkBench is similar to the output of
>fortran-to-c converters -> very icky and hard to change.
>
>One of the projects is a complete rewrite, but this won't happen till
>some version after the (hopefully) RSN 2.0

Since Workbench is basically a disk-based program (isn't it?) this could show
up in 2.1 (or whatever).  If the Workbench code is as nasty as you say, it
probably should be re-written anyway.  And if you're going to re-write it,
why not do it right?  After all, the Amiga *is* a multi-tasking machine!


I'd also like to add my $.02 to the noise about getting 2.0 out.  I'll wait,
thank you, until C= is happy it is reasonably debugged.  I've tried lots
of programs, and the buggy ones don't get a second chance.  As someone in
comp.unix.amiga pointed out, a shell program needs to be absolutely bug free.
I would submit even more so the operating system.  I'm not interested in
spending a dime on a buggy OS, no matter how flashy it is.  I'd rather stick
with 1.3.
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peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) (02/11/91)

In article <1991Feb9.190059.26278@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> jap@convex.cl.msu.edu (Joe Porkka) writes:
> However, I still think that the workbench under 2.0 as it is now is
> a GREAT DEAL better than under 1.3 -> thanks to Mike S. at cbm.

That's for damn sure. I was going to drop Browser after 2.0 came out, but I
think one more release would be worthwhile.
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sbeagle@kennels.actrix.gen.nz (Sleeping Beagle) (02/12/91)

jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) writes:

> No question about that!  Workbench 2.0 will be the first Workbench I'll
> actually USE on a regular basis.  I virtually never use Workbench now.	(I
> tried JazzBench 0.9 once, but it crashed too much.  Is there an upgrade?)

You bet, Workbench 2.0 is really neat all right...

However, I have not found Jazzbench buggy. THere are a few programs it
doesn't work with (like Popupmenu) but except for that it's fairly
stable.

As far as I know, there is no upgrade.
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