jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) (02/01/91)
Does this following scene happen to you?
You're sitting at your Amiga 2000, typing really really really fast,
or simply typing to fill a text file with meaningless data,
so, you hit about 30 keys at a time, or run your fingers along
one line, like a piano keyboard to get in as much keyboarding
in a short time.
All of a suddon: >POOF< Your amiga reboots and you feel like
it's time to, uh oh, go Mac.
We've all had our machines just spontaneously reboot. It's a fact
of AmigaHood, but, we learn to controll it and figure out what we
did so we dont do that series of events again - but this is different...
It happens WHENEVER I type reeeeeeeelly fast... hit several keys at time,
or generally really go fast on the keys.
And if any of you think I'm accidentially hitting contol, amiga, and amiga
at the same time... Uh, NO!
Lemme know if this has happened to you, and if yes, how you fixed it.
It seems to happen less, the further I jam in the keyboard to the A2000
receptacle...
But, even that doesnt stop the spontaneous reboot when I smack the keys.
Also, are amiga's keys pressure sensitive??? Nah...Cant be.
Monitor of comp.sys.amiga.emulations
-jeremy
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\X/ 2001 Dalmations - My stars, its full of dogs...swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren) (02/01/91)
In article <16340@chopin.udel.edu> jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) writes: [...] >We've all had our machines just spontaneously reboot. It's a fact >of AmigaHood, but, we learn to controll it and figure out what we >did so we dont do that series of events again ... [...] You state this with such authority that I'm tempted to believe you in spite of myself! But, - speak for yourself. I've had my Amiga since 1985 and I've *never* had it spontaneously reboot. I've had flakey game software that reboots me because the code in the game does this, and bugs in the game software make it reboot at the wrong time sometimes. But, I've never had it reboot spontaneously when I was running an editor or word processor or fiddling around in workbench. I'll bet you have a bunch of flakey PD software on your machine, yes? -- _. --Steve ._||__ DISCLAIMER: All opinions are my own. Warren v\ *| ---------------------------------------------- V {uunet,sun}!convex!swarren; swarren@convex.com
orovner@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Oleg Rovner) (02/02/91)
In article <16340@chopin.udel.edu> jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) writes: > [...] >>We've all had our machines just spontaneously reboot. It's a fact >>of AmigaHood, but, we learn to controll it and figure out what we >>did so we dont do that series of events again ... > [...] [clipped from S. Warren's reply] Who's "we" paleface? :-) Never had it happen to me... Check the PD you are running, particularly check to make sure none of your utilities have a macro key for the reset sequence. Check your keyboard connection to the CPU box, if it is loose, the machine might be resetting as you break and reconnect the contacts. OR -- ************************************************************************ GOD BLESS AMERICA! SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND OUR ALLIES! FREE KUWAIT! ************************************************************************
estdwha@warwick.ac.uk (CrisP) (02/03/91)
In article <16340@chopin.udel.edu> jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) writes: >Does this following scene happen to you? > >You're sitting at your Amiga 2000, typing really really really fast, >or simply typing to fill a text file with meaningless data, >so, you hit about 30 keys at a time, or run your fingers along >one line, like a piano keyboard to get in as much keyboarding >in a short time. > >All of a suddon: >POOF< Your amiga reboots and you feel like >it's time to, uh oh, go Mac. Go Mac? Are you seriosly deranged? > >We've all had our machines just spontaneously reboot. It's a fact I think you'll find a spontaneous reboot to be very rare. Most Amiga crashes are in the form of task held requestors. Crashes in the from of skiping this into the guru message requires a program. And a reboot without so much as a guru is not something that often hapens in a working Amiga. >of AmigaHood, but, we learn to controll it and figure out what we >did so we dont do that series of events again - but this is different... I agree; this is different. And I can relate to figureing out how we made a common Amiga crash to happen. For example: Did you know you can crash intuition by moveing or resizing a window while an application is also trying to do so? > >It happens WHENEVER I type reeeeeeeelly fast... hit several keys at time, >or generally really go fast on the keys. > >And if any of you think I'm accidentially hitting contol, amiga, and amiga >at the same time... Uh, NO! Are you sure that you are not causeing keyboard "ghostings" of those three keys by holding down too many of the matrix? > >Lemme know if this has happened to you, and if yes, how you fixed it. > >It seems to happen less, the further I jam in the keyboard to the A2000 >receptacle... >But, even that doesnt stop the spontaneous reboot when I smack the keys. > >Also, are amiga's keys pressure sensitive??? Nah...Cant be. > > >Monitor of comp.sys.amiga.emulations > -jeremy > I surgest you try treating your keyboard with a bit more respect. ~CrisP. -- ------------------------------------------------- crisp@uk.ac.warwick.cs | estdwha@uk.ac.warwick.cu -------------------------------------------------
estdwha@warwick.ac.uk (CrisP) (02/04/91)
In article <1991Feb3.023748.2098@warwick.ac.uk> estdwha@warwick.ac.uk (CrisP) writes: >In article <16340@chopin.udel.edu> jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) writes: [ Stuff deleted. ] >>And if any of you think I'm accidentially hitting contol, amiga, and amiga >>at the same time... Uh, NO! > >Are you sure that you are not causeing keyboard "ghostings" of those three >keys by holding down too many of the matrix? > One Alan Grade hase E-mailed me reminding me that the keys control amiga and amiga are wired seperatly and thus cannot "ghost". ( I should have remembered this from the scimatics. ) I would also like say: Stop being so paranoid about PD. Most of it works fine. ( Exept SKsh witch I couldn't get to work at all. :-) ) ~ CrisP. -- ------------------------------------------------- crisp@uk.ac.warwick.cs | estdwha@uk.ac.warwick.cu -------------------------------------------------
rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond) (02/05/91)
In a message posted on 31 Jan 91 23:24:32 GMT,
jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) wrote:
JAM>Does this following scene happen to you?
Actually, no.
JAM>Lemme know if this has happened to you, and if yes, how you fixed it.
I am both a Programmer at home , and a technician at work. I've never heard of
the problem you are mentioning.
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Opinions expressed in this message are my Own. I represent nobody else.
Russell McOrmond rwm@Atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca {tigris,alzabo,...}!atronx!rwm
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Amiga-Fidonet Support 1:1/109 Gateway for .Amiga.OCUnix.On.Capcooper@eecs.wsu.edu (Phil Cooper - CS495) (02/07/91)
In article <1991Feb4.130554.17612@warwick.ac.uk> estdwha@warwick.ac.uk (CrisP) writes: >In article <1991Feb3.023748.2098@warwick.ac.uk> estdwha@warwick.ac.uk (CrisP) writes: >>In article <16340@chopin.udel.edu> jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) writes: > >[ Stuff deleted. ] > >>>And if any of you think I'm accidentially hitting contol, amiga, and amiga >>>at the same time... Uh, NO! >> >>Are you sure that you are not causeing keyboard "ghostings" of those three >>keys by holding down too many of the matrix? >> > >One Alan Grade hase E-mailed me reminding me that the keys control amiga and >amiga are wired seperatly and thus cannot "ghost". ( I should have remembered >this from the scimatics. ) I have found that ScreenX and DMouse don't live well together. If the mouse pointer is inside the ScreenX window (clock, ram..) with DMouse running, and you rapidly hit about 10 keys in a row....*guru*. Could this be the cause your problem? Phil
carson@darwin.ntu.edu.au (02/07/91)
In article <59414.665770018@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca>, rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond) writes: > In a message posted on 31 Jan 91 23:24:32 GMT, > jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) wrote: > JAM>Does this following scene happen to you? > > Actually, no. > > JAM>Lemme know if this has happened to you, and if yes, how you fixed it. > > I am both a Programmer at home , and a technician at work. I've never heard of > the problem you are mentioning. > > --- > Opinions expressed in this message are my Own. I represent nobody else. > Russell McOrmond rwm@Atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca {tigris,alzabo,...}!atronx!rwm > FidoNet 1:163/109 Net Support: (613) 230-2282 > Amiga-Fidonet Support 1:1/109 Gateway for .Amiga.OCUnix.On.Ca -- I have had that problem only the other day, and I kept blaming the kids for it as they were always wanting to take tha mouse out and put a Joystick in to play games. Then it started to happen to me, I would be right in the middle of a program and the amiga would reboot ????? I found the problem the power plug was not pused fully in in the back of the Amiga Bingo no more worries. I hope this helps your problem. ________________________________________________________________________ John Carson \ Ph: (089)466207 Northern Territory University \ Fax: (089)466454 PO Box 40146,CASUARINA,NT,0811 \ Internet: Carson@darwin.ntu.edu.au Australia. \ "The best is yet to come when everyone has a AMIGA" ________________________________________________________________________
jeremym@brahms.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) (02/08/91)
In article <1991Feb06.224157.5615@eecs.wsu.edu> pcooper@yoda.UUCP (Phil Cooper - CS495) writes: >In article <1991Feb4.130554.17612@warwick.ac.uk> estdwha@warwick.ac.uk (CrisP) writes: >>In article <1991Feb3.023748.2098@warwick.ac.uk> estdwha@warwick.ac.uk (CrisP) writes: >>>In article <16340@chopin.udel.edu> jeremym@chopin.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) writes: >> >>[ Stuff deleted. ] >> >>>>And if any of you think I'm accidentially hitting contol, amiga, and amiga >>>>at the same time... Uh, NO! >>> >>>Are you sure that you are not causeing keyboard "ghostings" of those three >>>keys by holding down too many of the matrix? >>> ****the real juice**** > I have found that ScreenX and DMouse don't live well together. If the >mouse pointer is inside the ScreenX window (clock, ram..) with DMouse >running, and you rapidly hit about 10 keys in a row....*guru*. Could this >be the cause your problem? > > Phil Nope... I DO run Qmouse, FR_bypass (Khallid), Switcher (Khalid), setbeep to small sound, virusx 4.01, and Starblanker... Occasionally I use Gomf2.0... but not usually... Not too much for a 5 meg machine, huh??? That's about it... and, there's no GURU when I dance on the keyboard.. NO GURU... just REBOOT. No warning shot, no nothing... Hm... Hm... Hm..... Anyone else care to try? Also.. I find that if I JAM the keyboard connecter into the 2000, it does it less... Short? Nah.. Maybe...hm... Monitor of comp.sys.amiga.emulations -jeremy -- E Pluribus // Contacts: jeremym@brahms.udel.edu or jeremym@chopin.udel.edu or Unix // jeremy@freezer.it.udel.edu (line 1 = jeremym) \\ // --->Monitor of comp.sys.amiga.emulations<--- \X/ 2001 Dalmations - My stars, its full of dogs...
rar@auc.UUCP (Rodney Ricks) (02/08/91)
In article <18573@brahms.udel.edu> jeremym@brahms.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) writes: [ Lots of stuff deleted. ] >That's about it... and, there's no GURU when I dance on the keyboard.. >NO GURU... just REBOOT. No warning shot, no nothing... Hm... Hm... Hm..... > >Anyone else care to try? Ok, I'll try. >Also.. I find that if I JAM the keyboard connecter into the 2000, >it does it less... Short? Nah.. Maybe...hm... From what I remember, the Amiga is supposed to reboot if you plug in the keyboard when the computer is running. It might be a short, just like you said. >Monitor of comp.sys.amiga.emulations > -jeremy Rodney -- /// /// Rodney Ricks, Morehouse College \\\/// \\//
dave@unislc.uucp (Dave Martin) (02/13/91)
From article <18573@brahms.udel.edu>, by jeremym@brahms.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz): > Also.. I find that if I JAM the keyboard connecter into the 2000, > it does it less... Short? Nah.. Maybe...hm... > > E Pluribus // Contacts: jeremym@brahms.udel.edu or jeremym@chopin.udel.edu or > Unix // jeremy@freezer.it.udel.edu (line 1 = jeremym) > \\ // --->Monitor of comp.sys.amiga.emulations<--- > \X/ 2001 Dalmations - My stars, its full of dogs... I know from experience that it is possible to cause a reboot (in the ctrl-amiga-amiga fashion) by shorting 2 of the pins in the keyboard connector together. I and a friend discovered this once while experimenting with the keyboard. Perhaps your connector, socket, and/or keyboard has a problem and occasionally causes this short to occur. -- VAX Headroom Speaking for myself only... blah blah blahblah blah... Internet: DMARTIN@CC.WEBER.EDU dave@saltlcy-unisys.army.mil uucp: dave@unislc.uucp or use the Path: line. Now was that civilized? No, clearly not. Fun, but in no sense civilized.
jkh@meepmeep.pcs.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) (02/20/91)
Do you have an custom peripherals in that there 2000? Any loose cards perhaps? What happens if you don't type at all but just shake the whole keyboard / base unit assembly? I had my A500 "rebooting spontaneously" while I typed for awhile until I tried the simple shake-test and determined that the fault lay in the fact that I hadn't quite seated things firmly when I plugged the Gary chip into its new "fat memory expansion kludge" home. After taking everything very carefully apart and seating things tightly, the problem went away and I've had 0 problems since. Jordan -- PCS Computer Systeme GmbH, Munich, West Germany UUCP: pyramid!pcsbst!jkh jkh@meepmeep.pcs.com EUNET: unido!pcsbst!jkh ARPA: jkh@violet.berkeley.edu or hubbard@decwrl.dec.com